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'Traverser' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 127-952
most recent 2 JUN 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 JUN 21 by Patricia Routley
For Nadene and Deborah at the Old Parliament House Gardens, Senate Tennis Courts.
Traverser is in your listing. No photo has been added to HelpMeFind. Is this a rose you plan to buy? Are you confident enough of the veracity of this rose to order an engraved-in-stone label?
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Discussion id : 124-752
most recent 30 DEC 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 30 DEC 20 by Balinbear123
We have had a Traverser for quite a number of years. I always thought that we had received a wrongly named plant because I had the impression (from photos) that the flowers were supposed to be yellow but on our plant they are a pinkie yellow.

We have it growing on a trellis which is about 1.8m high and the plant has spread out about 5 metres. It's not growing in the best part of the garden so its foliage is a bit sparse and it is not a great flowerer.
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Discussion id : 124-684
most recent 30 DEC 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 DEC 20 by Ambroise Paré
Petali setosi di colore rosa sfumato di bianco e lievemente di giallo.
Pianta con ottimo vigore.
Una coppa semi doppia con un ottimo profumo.
Cm.400×350

Petals with a silk texture. They are pink shaded white e with some Yellow
Good vigorous plant.
Flowers slightly cupped, semi double and with a good fragrance
409x 350
My translation from Ippocastano nursery’ s website
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 29 DEC 20 by Patricia Routley
A most interesting comment Ambroise. All references say ‘Traverser’ was creamy yellow, with the one exception of the 1998 Golden Vale nursery which says “white, light pink”.
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 29 DEC 20 by Ambroise Paré
I tried to Edit it several times with No avail . The translation is not complete, i ll try to Edit and continue the translation.
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 29 DEC 20 by Ambroise Paré
I think this description from this nursery is more accurate than the others. Which tend to repeat the same stuff. People in the past had a diffwrent idea of Yellow. And the height should be added as well
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 29 DEC 20 by Patricia Routley
I have added a height. Thank you.
Whilst there has always been much repeating in references, my feeling is that the first mention of any pink in this 1928 rose appeared 70 years later in 1998 - and that is too long for someone not to have noticed it previously.
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 29 DEC 20 by HubertG
Patricia, I agree with you - the pink 'Traverser' offered in commerce clearly isn't the original cream/ivory/white 'Traverser'. However, if the Pink Traverser was found at Glenara, it still has huge value as almost certainly one of Clark's varieties (whether it's a named or unreleased unnamed variety).

The early references to Clark's specimen growing on a dividing wall describe a spread of 40 feet (12m). Perhaps that size could be added.

It would be great to have more photos in the file from people who grow the pink Traverser.
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 29 DEC 20 by Patricia Routley
That 40 ft was along a fence. Would you put that in as height or width?
I’ve put it in as a Note.
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 29 DEC 20 by HubertG
Thanks, that would be the width as it ran along the fence.

The photo of 'Traverser' facing page 227 in Susan Irvine's book 'Rose Gardens' is definitely a deep yellowish cream. I can copy it if you think it would be permissible to do so under the review/criticism/research part of the Copyright Act.
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 30 DEC 20 by Patricia Routley
I am sure Susan Irvine would have heartily agreed with sharing the photo.
In most cases, the reason for written references is USE, and that's what you're doing, using it, by quoting the source.
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 30 DEC 20 by Margaret Furness
Of course, AC also grew the roses he used for breeding.
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Discussion id : 122-082
most recent 9 JUN 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 JUN 20 by Singularly Beautiful Roses
A new source - "New Australian Roses," by Alister Clark; from 1930 American Rose Annual, p. 147. "In 1929, the season just closing, I sent out eight new roses, two being extra-vigorous climbing varieties that in spring are a mass of flowers and possess splendid foliage. These are Traverser, a pal yellow Gigantea cross, and Refresher, a single white companion to American Pillar, and very distinct.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 9 JUN 20 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Stephen.
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