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    most recent 14 NOV 15  
    RoseAve Maria (polyantha, Böhm, 1933)
    Initial post 12 NOV 15 by Vladimír Ježovič
    Jiří Sekera: Böhm růže Blatná, 2013, Vydalo město Blatná, page 125: sport from ´Ulster´
    Reply #1 posted 14 NOV 15 by Patricia Routley
    I have added the reference but have not added the parentage because of the comments on file between Cass and Robert.
    I have searched my computer for an ‘Ulster’ polyantha.
    No ‘Ulster’ poly was listed in Dickson’s 1914 catalogue.
    Neither ‘Ave Maria’ nor ‘Ulster’ (poly) was listed in Dickson’s 1938-9 catalogue.
    My best bet of the parentage would be ‘Ulster Gem’, 1917 a white single HT which flowered in clusters.
    most recent 1 MAY 14  
    RoseAve Maria (polyantha, Böhm, 1933)
    Initial post 1 MAY 14 by Grntrz5
    I received this rose from Vintage Gardens 4-30-2014. This lovely rose turns off-white with a bit of age, and has a wonderful rose scent, the color and size of bloom reminds me of Hybrid Musk Penelope. The dark shiny green leaves are small, there are tiny prickles under a few of the leaf joints. The plant canes are flexible and well branched, and there are numerous buds waiting to open.
    most recent 5 JUL 08  
    RoseAve Maria (polyantha, Böhm, 1933)
    Initial post 4 JUL 08 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
    Lineage states this rose is a polyantha and sport of a Hybrid Perpetual?

    Not only is this highly unlikely, I suspect it's nearly impossible. You might want to reexamine your reference here.
    Reply #1 posted 5 JUL 08 by Cass
    The parentage is from Modern Roses 12. It is likely that Ulster is a different Ulster from the HP. Neither is mentioned in the American Rose Annuals of the period.
    Reply #2 posted 5 JUL 08 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
    It sounds as if we will never know the real story. I'm sure you're correct. The parentage as stated looks very odd. Thanks Cass, Robert.