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"Moser Striped Rose" Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 122-055
most recent 7 JUN 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 JUN 20 by HubertG
I see a strong resemblance in the curvature and form of the outer petals to those of 'Lady Hillingdon', in fact the whole flower shape bears a resemblance. Going by all the photos here it's hard to see how this could be anything other than 'Improved Rainbow' in my opinion.
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Discussion id : 85-099
most recent 22 MAY 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 MAY 15 by scvirginia
Is this the same rose that is called "Moser Pink Striped" in the Sacramento Cemetery catalog?
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 20 MAY 15 by Jeri Jennings
Yes. It is the same rose. It is thought to be a superior clone of 'Rainbow.' And it is a wonderful thing.
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 21 MAY 15 by scvirginia
I just got 'Rainbow' today from Long Ago Roses, and am looking forward to growing it. I'd love to compare it to the Moser rose, but I don't see any U.S. suppliers.

If it is "in commerce" through the Sacramento Cemetery folks as "Moser Pink Striped", should that be the only name by which it is listed at HMF? It does seem that it should be at least one of the names...

Thanks for clarifying,
Virginia
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 21 MAY 15 by Jeri Jennings
The identity as 'Rainbow' is not confirmed.

Many of us THINK it looks like 'Rainbow,' but since the people who planted it are long-dead, there is no confirmation of that ID

Until there is positive confirmation of an identity, the Sacramento City Cemetery Historic Rose Garden uses the study names given to a rose by the finder.

I personally think it looks to be 'Rainbow,' but there was also a "Rainbow Improved" (or something of the sort) but lacking a DNA match, it would be difficult to confirm positively.
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 21 MAY 15 by scvirginia
Aha! I didn't know there was another 'Rainbow', but now I see it: 'Improved Rainbow' raised by Luther Burbank, c.1896

Described as
Improved Rainbow. Elegant flowers of immense size; bright pink dashed and streaked with cherry red. Magnificent buds. Blooms grandly in pots.

I'm guessing that it isn't known, though, if 'Improved Rainbow' was actually related to the unimproved 'Rainbow' that I now have? I don't see anything about parentage at HMF.

Virginia
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 21 MAY 15 by Jeri Jennings
Probably not known. Burbank was very secretive. So, you see, even DNA testing can't tell you everything. Which is why I am quite content to enjoy roses under a study name, and not worry about it.
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 21 MAY 15 by scvirginia
I hear ya about enjoying found roses for their own virtues, but I'm a bit compartmentalized on that score. I do enjoy my roses as individual plants, whether I know their names or not. But I also have an inner detective that likes to research and speculate about ID's. In many ways, found roses are a good way for a beginner like me to teach herself about roses... if I never get an ID, I will still probably learn something through trying.

Virginia
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 21 MAY 15 by Jeri Jennings
Well, I don't mind anyone looking. I just don't feel a burning need to do it myself. :-)
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 22 MAY 15 by Patricia Routley
Mel Hulse added "Moser Striped Rose in 2007. I don't know when it hit the catalogs, so have just added the synonym of "Moser Pink Striped" in the meantime. Ideally the first name gets precedence.
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 22 MAY 15 by scvirginia
I have no idea about which study name has precedence, but anyone who searches for "Moser Pink Striped" will get to where they intend to go, and that's the important thing.

Thanks,
Virginia
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