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'KORrev' rose Reviews & Comments
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IIRC, for anyone in the Pacific Northwest going through Portland, Portland Community College in the Sylvania area had a garden of this rose. I imagine they would share cutting. Its a strange rose. Plant could be better. Color is pretty intense, strange. Its not a typical picotee cause there is shading in the petal and the picotee is super strong.
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31 MAY 21 by
 Johno
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Neue Revue was a large plant in the garden when I moved in over thirty years ago. Lovely flower atop strong stems armed completely with prickles. Purchased a replacement rose last winter but is yet to do much.
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Really beautiful flower, with an outstanding fragrance, reminescent of damask.
It surprises me that nobody talks about the similarities between this flower and Double Delight, given that the two share similar very strong fragrance, and an increasing deepness and extension of the red edges linked with sun exposition (flowers of both can show very light and narrow red marks on the cream coloured base, if not allowed to take direct sun enough).
Double Delight blooms maybe more easily and richly, while Neue Revue's flowers are more shapely and slightly bigger, with the red colour more regularly ditributed on every petal's edge. Both are simply outstanding, to my opinion.
I'd like to know more about this trait (increasing colour linked to sun exposition), shared with some others fine varieties like Paradise, Shocking Blue, Givenchy and Granada (this two are closely related to DD), Blue River ... I wonder if Neue Revue and Double Delight share some common ancestors, or if this trait developed independently in the two strains...
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7 MAR 09 by
jedmar
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They share only the usual suspects like 'Peace' and 'Souvenir de Claudius Pernet'...
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Beace, I can imagine... but S de Cl. Pernet?? It's deep yellow, with only sporadic orange marks!
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Its a genetic trait picked up mostly through R. chinensis and R. foetida bicolor, as well as selection through time.
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Michael ....
Is this the "it's phototropic characteristics" that John Sheldon was writing about on his member page ?
http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=7.7151
Smiles,
Lyn
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Correct. You can see it show up down the line from 'Bicolor'. A lot of bicolors and picotees also followed suit from this rose. News Review, in horticultural terms, is actually all 3 concepts. It is a bicolor (the reverse is often very different than the petal face. It is a picotee (it has a distinctive petal edge pattern). And it is phototropic (the colors saturate in UV). News Review is actually very unique among roses. Double Delight is simply just phototropic. It lacks the other two traits.
And then you have reverse-bicolors, where the reverse is darker than the petal face, which often leads to the petal faces bleaching out. See 'Fame!' as an example. The petal faces will simply fade out in extreme UV exposure.
And if you have grown Sanguinea, the China rose, it is VERY evident, since it starts carmine-red and ends up dark red in the sun.
It is not only Mutabilis with this traits. In other words, you can see the deepening of more that just gold to pink, but you can also see colors deepen their own color tones in the heat.
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Re: Neue Revue. Origin: Bred in Germany (1962) by W. Kordes & Sons.
This bred date could be 1969.
1971 Australian Rose Annual
p152. Dr. A. S. Thomas. The New Ones. Neue Revue (H.T. (R. [sic] Kordes, 1969). Parentage not given. Extremely thorny.
1971 The Rose Annual, UK
p183. International Awards. Neue Revue, W. Kordes, Sohne. Certificate at Roeulx.
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30 JAN 08 by
jedmar
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Sangerhausen also lists as bred in 1969.
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Re: Neue Revue parentage: Colour Wonder × Seedling
The Australian Rose Annual 1971 page 24 reports the parentage as
Konigin der Rosen (Colour Wonder) x Liberty Bell.
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Patricia.........
Do you have a second source confirming the parentage reported in The Australian Rose Annual of 1971? The references on the rose page for 'Neue Revue' are the source of our current parentage listed on the rose page. I have checked two other reference books and they report the same parentage.
Smiles,
Lyn
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Not at the moment Lyn. But if one does turn up at a later date in my indexing, I will let you know.
Patricia
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Thank you.
Smiles,
Lyn
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