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'Pergolèse' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 166-787
most recent 15 APR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 APR by odinthor
I have grown both 'Pergolèse' and 'Rose de Rescht', both on their own roots, for several decades. While the blossoms are quite similar--not lookalikes, but quite similar--and both bloom gratifyingly throughout the year, 'Pergolèse' sends out suckers and runners with some frequency, and 'Rose de Rescht' never does, absolutely never (I wish it would!). (Before anyone says, "But my 'Rose de Rescht' sends out suckers abundantly!", be aware that it appears that many who have what they think is 'Rose de Rescht' actually have the suckering 'Rose du Roi'.) Also, 'Pergolèse' is taller, branches less, and has a looser, more open, habit than the bushy 'Rose de Rescht'.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 14 APR by Nastarana
My 'Pergolese', bought from a Canadian company, now closed, some years back, does repeat bloom. It stays short and, I rather think, it would prefer a less heavy soil.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 15 APR by Jay-Jay
I have definitely the rose on the right side as Rose de Rescht. Not the left-one... And it suckers!
And definitely not Rose du Roi.
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Discussion id : 93-472
most recent 17 JUN 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 JUN 16 by Nastarana
I grow a 'Pergolese' which I bought from Pickering. It looks very like what I suppose it to be, a combination of gallica and Portland parents. It does repeat bloom.

This year I bought 'Rose de Rescht' from High Country Roses. I planted it directly next to my 'Pergolese'. So far, the two roses do not seem to me to be the same cultivar.

'Pergolese' grows like a small Gallica., as can be seen in the photo by Frederic. with many small canes growing straight up. Another Damask Perpetual or early Hybrid Perpetual, if one prefers, which I also grow, 'Miranda', has a very similar growth habit. The leaves on my 'Pergolese' are larger and darker than on most of the DP roses in my yard.

The 'Rose de Rescht' has leaves of a lighter green, and what seem to me to be softer stems and leaves, such as I see on other DPs, and is already showing the kind of sprawling, many branched growth habit I see on other Damask Perpetuals, like "Benny Lopez" and 'Duchess of Portland' herself.
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Discussion id : 48-694
most recent 1 JUN 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 11 OCT 10 by jedmar
Re the comments of Naasra to Martien Brand's photo:
It seems indeed so that 'Pergolèse' in many nurseries is 'Rose de Rescht'. Actually, the "correct" variety seems to be a once-blooming Gallica (see the Reference of Philipp Robinson and the photo comments of Donald). Old sources mention P. as a Gallica. The earliest mention of a Portland by Robert & Moreau is in 1899 - an error, which came to be repeated? Does anyone have other information? Also, neither L'Haÿ in 1902 nor Sangerhausen in 1936 had a P. in their collection. This seems to have been re-introduced in the 1940s in USA. What source and whose identification?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 OCT 13 by Belmont
My experience confirms this. When I bought 'Pergolèse' from Pickering it turned out to be 'Rose de Rescht.'
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 JUN 15 by MelissaPej
My 'Pergolese' from Tuincentrum Lottum in the Netherlands, purchased a few years ago, is also 'Rose de Rescht'. This is my only experience with this variety.
Postscript June 2020:
I bought 'Pergolese' from Petrovic in 2016: this rose looks like a pure Gallica, as some of the roses circulating under this name are reputed to be.
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