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Discussion id : 68-845
most recent 18 FEB 21 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 18 DEC 12 by Cà Berta
In 1953 Pretoria was presented at the International Rose Trials of Rome. It was the first among italian roses and got a certificate of merit.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 18 DEC 12 by jedmar
Thank you! Award changed. Reference in MR must be incorrect.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 21 DEC 12 by Cà Berta
The information I gave was only partially correct: Pretoria was the second italian rose. The first was Riva Ligure.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 18 FEB 21 by Patricia Routley
In the 2020 reference Sheenagh Harris says ‘Pretoria’ won a gold medal in Rome in 1953.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 18 FEB 21 by Cà Berta
The three 1953 references clearly state that Pretoria won a certificate of merit; in particular in Rosenjahrbuch and in American rose annual it is clearly stated that it won a second certificate. In particular the report in American rose annual was signed by Countess Mary Senni who lived in Rome and ... was "on the spot".
According to two references, the winner of the Gold medal at the International Rose Trials of Rome in 1953 was Pastorella by Meilland.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 18 FEB 21 by jedmar
Sheenagh Harris apparently has quoted Modern Roses, which has it wrong. As Cà Berta says, contemporary publications clearly state 2nd Certificate of Merit.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 18 FEB 21 by Patricia Routley
Oh. No wonder I was confused - sometimes I can’t see the truth behind the clearly stated references. Thanks to you both.
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Discussion id : 68-756
most recent 13 DEC 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 DEC 12 by Cà Berta
According to two references, the winner of the Gold medal at the International Rose Trials of Rome in 1953 was Pastorella by Meilland (see the missing rose Pastorella)
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