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'Baccará ®' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 124-594
most recent 26 DEC 20 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 26 DEC 20 by Cambridgelad
Introduced in the UK by the Wheatcroft Brothers.

Ref. 1960 Wheatcroft Brothers Catalogue
Discussion id : 120-237
most recent 17 FEB 20 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 15 FEB 20 by Alain Meilland

I was on the BACCARA page and I found this : "'Baccará®' became public domain in 1974 after having produced 25 million plants."

Well it is not BACCARA® that became public, but the variety Meiger... BACCARA® is still a registered trademark and cannot be used without our written consent in the countries were it is registered.

If you could change it to : "'The variety Meiger became public domain in 1974 after being produced up to 25 million plants."

Best regards
Matthias Meilland
Reply #1 of 2 posted 15 FEB 20 by jedmar
Reply #2 of 2 posted 17 FEB 20 by Alain Meilland
Thanks Jedmar,

Best regards
Discussion id : 116-973
most recent 30 MAY 19 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 30 MAY 19 by Beppe.gabellone
Baccara rose isn't Meiger, but is Meger
Reply #1 of 2 posted 30 MAY 19 by jedmar
I think MEIger is correct, where MEI stands for Meilland. Almost all sources state MEIger. Can you explain why you believe otherwise?
Reply #2 of 2 posted 30 MAY 19 by Beppe.gabellone
I think it's Meger and not Meiger, because on the original card of my Baccara rose there is written like this, then on the official website Meilland, in the section of their history, the Baccara rose is mentioned with the acronym Meger.
Discussion id : 60-912
most recent 15 JAN 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 15 JAN 12 by goncmg
One of the first roses I fell in love with when I got "The Pocket Encyclopedia of Roses" by Edlund for my 5th birthday in 1972. The blooms are small. The plant is very thin and tall, and I know has been criticized for not doing well outside but my plant, growing on its own roots, is vigorous and has slightly better than average disease resistance in Ohio. When this rose was introduced this was a relatively "ground breaking" color.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 15 JAN 12 by Kim Rupert
The rose was such a remarkable commercial success in the floral trade that long after it was superseded by better performing roses, people would still come in to order "a dozen Baccara". Meilland, the creator/introducer of the original has reused the name for florist roses. It was that popular.
Reply #2 of 5 posted 15 JAN 12 by goncmg
The legendary KIM RUPERT! Nice to meet you! There is still nothing quite "like" Baccara, just as in my opinion Sterling Silver is Sterling Silver, something just stands it apart.
Reply #3 of 5 posted 15 JAN 12 by Kim Rupert
Hi, thank you? Yes, Baccara is distinctive once you get to know it. In my old mid desert garden, it was fairly happy, though not what I would call a "heavy bloomer". I grew it because Ralph Moore used it in his crested rose breeding. I obtained mine from him many years ago. I no longer grow it but remember it well.
Reply #4 of 5 posted 15 JAN 12 by goncmg
I've seen your name and articles and so lucky you are to have known Mr. Moore! Like so many people I am fascinated by the brown roses.....I see you asked for cutting from Balinese, did you ever get those? Or is that one gone? And Royal Tan, McGredy 1955? And the Holy Grail: Pigalle, Meilland 1951? And one more----Gladys Fisher. Oh I know she had a few others beside Sterling Silver, but whatever became of her? When did she pass? Do you know anything about that woman other than she lived in the Boston area? I think her story could make a great movie............
Reply #5 of 5 posted 15 JAN 12 by Kim Rupert
Yes, his friendship was a genuine blessing. Today would have been his 105th birthday. It appears Royal Tan, Balinese and Pigalle are all extinct. I'm not surprised as none of them were considered very vigorous. It's a miracle Grey Pearl and Fantan still exist.

I found part of Mrs. Fisher's obituary in The Boston Globe. The beginning is below, from October 20, 1993.

Gladys (McKone) Fisher, a horticulturist in Woburn who hybridized roses, died of a stroke Saturday in the Woburn Nursing home. She was 99.

Mrs. Fisher was born in Dover, N.H. She graduated from New Hampshire College in 1915.

Following her marriage to Gordon Fisher in 1916, she and her husband operated the Arnold-Fisher Co., a rose-growing concern in Woburn. They later opened a wholesale-retail business in Boston that distributed floral supplies throughout the East Coast. Mrs. Fisher had been a member of the Woburn Women's Club, the 20/20 Club and the First Congregational Church of Woburn.

The entire thing can be purchased for $26 from The Boston Globe. I had no idea she was born during WW I. Interesting.
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