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'Remembrance' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 29-811
most recent 7 OCT 14 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 16 AUG 08 by Patricia Routley
In the late 1990's I wrote to the Australian War Memorial in Canberra requesting information on Alister Clark's 'Remembrance'. Unfortunately there was never any reply.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 4 OCT 14 by Jane Z
Some newspaper reports concerning 'Remembrance', the 1952 article suggests that the rose was registered by the Imperial War Graves Commission.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 5 OCT 14 by Patricia Routley
Perfect timing to be re-looking at this Alister Clark rose with the Gallipoli centenary event approaching.
There are two other red roses, also named 'Remembrance': the 1992 floribunda from Harkness, and the 1996 shrub from Poulsen, as well as Alister Clark's red 1948 hybrid tea. If there is a red hybrid tea named 'Remembrance' in a war cemetery somewhere in the world, there is an excellent chance that it will be an Alister Clark rose.

I'll add those clippings as references. Well done - and thank you Jane.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 7 OCT 14 by Jane Z
Patricia, can you advise in what source(s) HMF originally found reference to this rose for its inclusion in the database, thanks
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 7 OCT 14 by Patricia Routley
I've indexed every rose ever mentioned in the 'Australian Rose Annual' from 1928 to 2014. See here
http://www.heritage.rose.org.au/index-of-roses.html
(If that doesn't work for you, have a look at the Heritage Roses in Australia website > links > Index of Roses.) I was able to pick up the two references, 1948 and 1956 to 'Remembrance' from my indexing. They are both listed in the HelpMefind references for 'Remembrance'.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 7 OCT 14 by Jane Z
ok, so it wasn't mentioned in any official listings or 'registers' or whatever, that is what I was trying to ascertain.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 7 OCT 14 by Patricia Routley
It seems Dr. Thomas (1956 reference) also came to that conclusion.
But I'll bet you it is still "out there". The war cemetery graves are really looked after.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 7 OCT 14 by Jane Z
I'm however wondering if AS Thomas didn't have full facts available. Perhaps the rose was registered in Eur/UK under ownership of IWGC & Australia wasn't notified or whatever. A slim chance, however, in those days of fairly careful reporting, The Argus article from 4 years prior suggests that the rose was indeed registered, as one would expect the recipient organisation to do.

One aspect that particularly surprises me though, is that there was no *story* about the rose & donation in the ARA, simply a modest observation 'snippet' in 1948 by a member, and then, the 1956 reference was in effect an 'aside' with regard to discussion of another rose.

Why was this story ignored?
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Discussion id : 80-887
most recent 5 OCT 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 5 OCT 14 by Patricia Routley
I include this reference, just in case there is confusion.

“Wartime” Official Magazine of the Australian War Memorial. Issue 19. 2002.
P62. The Gallipoli Bloom. The Australian War Memorial and Canberra’s Yarralumla Nursery have joined forces to release the Memorial’s first commemorative plant – the Gallipoli Rose (cistus salviifolius).
Cistus salviifolius has a strong link with Australia’s military heritage. It grows wild on the Gallipoli Peninsula and has a powerful legend associated with it. It is believed Australian soldiers at Gallipoli were so taken with the plant’s beauty that they brought seeds back to Australia and scattered them around fields and gardens as a symbol of peace and remembrance. Over time, as more and more plants blossomed in Australian gardens, it became known as the Gallipoli Rose. The commemorative plant was grown locally at the Yarralumla Nursery. The manager of the nursery, Michael Kidd, says it is hardy and ideal for most areas: “Being suited to Mediterranean climates, the Gallipoli Rose can be successfully grown across a broad section of Australia.” Gallipoli Rose plants are available from nurseries and garden centres throughout the ACT, Southern Tablelands, Southern Highlands and Riverina regions of NSW and selected outlets in Sydney.
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