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'Double Yellow Persian' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 153-545
most recent 18 OCT 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 OCT 23 by Orianne Courmes
Present at « Jardin des plantes » in Paris, in the « jardin Alpin » section. I don’t remember under what name, but there is « persiana » in it. Wonderfull specimen. If I thinking about it, I will take a photo of the plant and the label next year
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Discussion id : 133-553
most recent 28 JUN 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 27 JUN 22 by CybeRose
I don't see how the references from 1649 and 1765 can be attached to 'Persian Yellow' rather than the double yellow Hemispherica that Clusius introduced around 1601.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 JUN 22 by jedmar
Yes, the dates do not seem to fit 'Persian Yellow'. The reference of 1765 ia actually a translation of the Italian reference of 1649 and both could be referring to Rosa hemisphaerica.
In this context there is also the mysterious reference in The New Herball of 1586 to the "yealow rose", which seems to be single.
Clusius' introduction of Rosa hemisphaerica in 1601 was an introduction to the western world, this rose was known in the Orient apparently long before that.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 28 JUN 22 by CybeRose
Jedmar,
Gesner (in Cordus, 1561) lists two yellow roses.
1) Rosae citrinae seu luteae, C. Rurpodius. (probably Rosa rapini)
2) Rosae moschum fragrantes, luteae, K. Augustae luteas alunt in hortis lautiores quidam, quas inodoras esse audio, (& vulpinas cognominari:) frutice tamen odorato, quem vidi illic vir entem iuxta parietes hortorum, odoreserè sylvestris Rosae foliorum, quam à vino nostri denominant. Florem siccum tantùm & inodorum vidi. Nunc plantas duas in horto alo: sed non feliciter germinantes, quòd diutius (opinor) in itinere detentae sint; & iam circa solstitium odorem etiam amisisse videntur.

I think the the second was our Rosa foetida. I've read that the leaves are sweetly scented (jasmine), but I did not know that the last time I encountered the species.
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Discussion id : 89-913
most recent 24 DEC 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 DEC 15 by CybeRose
The Garden 24(621): 328 (Oct 12, 1883)
Williams’ double yellow Rose—I have sometimes seen this named Persian Yellow, but both in flower and habit of growth it greatly differs from that variety. The yellow Rose to which I refer was raised by Mr. Williams, of Pitmaston, about 1826, and was said to have been raised from the single Austrian Brier. This Rose is rarely to be found in Rose lists, and there must surely be some reason for the omission, as the tree is very distinct from the Persian or Harrison’s Yellow; the flowers are larger and it continues longer in flower. I would be glad to know the cause of this old-fashioned Rose falling out of the lists of Roses worth growing.— Charles McDonald, Stokesley.
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Discussion id : 42-326
most recent 6 FEB 10 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 FEB 10 by roseseek1
Collected from the cemetery in Austin Nevada, June 1987 and grown for years as "Austin Cemetery".
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