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'Le Flambeau' rose Reviews & Comments
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Initial post 21 JUL 18 by HubertG
From Rosen-Zeitung 1906, page 99:

"Neuste Rosen für 1906. (Die Beschreibungen sind die der Züchter.)

Züchter: Chédane-Guinoisseau & Pajotin-Chédane.
Le Flambeau (Tee.) Strauch sehr wüchsig, Laub sehr dunkelgrün, Triebe gerade; Blume sehr schön dunkelrot, in der Mitte feuerrot erhellt, beständig blühend. Sport von Mr. Tillier."

My translation:

Newest Roses for 1906. (The descriptions are those of the breeder.)

Breeder: Chédane-Guinoisseau & Pajotin-Chédane.
Le Flambeau (Tea.) Bush very vigorous, foliage very dark green, shoots straight; flower very beautiful dark red, lit up flame-red in the middle, constantly blooming. Sport of Mr. Tillier.

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Yes, that is 'Mr.' not 'M.' in the original text. This doesn't currently appear in the lineage page under sports for Monsieur Tillier, nor does the parentage show in the description page for Le Flambeau.
I only found out about this rose just now and had to laugh a little because I wonder if it is one of the roses grown as Tillier or Archiduc Joseph ... as if that needed more confusion.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 21 JUL 18 by Patricia Routley
Thanks HubertG. Parentage and reference now added. That would be an interesting one to research and the name seems familiar to me.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 21 JUL 18 by HubertG
Thanks for adding that.
I'll see what I can find. That was the sole reference in Rosen-Zeitung for 'Le Flambeau" (besides the index entry).
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 22 JUL 18 by Patricia Routley
I've searched and found nothing.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 23 JUL 18 by HubertG
I couldn't find anything on 'Le Flambeau' either. It might never have made it's way out of Europe. Incidentally, both 'Monsieur Tillier' and 'Archiduc Joseph' were introduced by Dingee's Nursery in America in 1893 and 1894 respectively, and I've just posted their catalogue descriptions.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 30 JUL 18 by HubertG
From 'Roses and Their Cultivation' by T.W. Sanders, 9th ed. page 159 (from their list of all known worthwhile roses):

Le Flambeau, Tea, 1907, Red, [Habit of growth] Moderate, [How best grown] Garden, [Mode and time of pruning] Mod. Apr., [Remarks] Very free.

This edition of the book dates from about 1914 because it talks of the roses shown in 1913.
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