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'Fulgorie' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 105-925
most recent 8 OCT 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 OCT 17 by CybeRose
The Cottage Gardener 4: 392-394 (Sept. 26, 1850)
Donald Beaton
Another plan, which would add greatly to the pleasure of having such a beautiful hedge to divide one's garden, would be to plant the Fulgore rose as every fourth or fifth plant in the hedge; and, if one could get them so, the plants would do much better on their own roots. This Fulgore does not do well, I believe, anywhere worked on another plant, after the first few years. It would grow better on the Gloire de Rosamene itself than on any other rose, and might safely be budded on it as it stands in the hedge; and so might Madame Laffay, the third best rose for such a hedge. Fulgore is gone much out of fashion for the last few years, because it does not grow well on the dog-rose stock, at least, it will not live long on it if pruned close; but of all the late autumn roses it is by far the sweetest, and comes nearest the old Cabbage rose in shape, and blooms as late as Madame Laffay: but the true way to manage it is to get it from cuttings, and to cut it right down to the ground every second or third year, and then after thinning the flower buds, and with "pot victuals," you might cut dozens of full blown roses of it that the people in London could not make out from regular cabbage roses, and nearly, if not altogether, as sweet. Sometimes it will make three or four shoots as many feet in length, and then flower at the ends, while the rest of the head is languishing for want of nourishment; and when that happens away go the weak parts by the first hard winter, and of course an under bark disease follows; and the sweetest of the autumn roses is pronounced to be bad to keep, and, as there is no lack of sorts, it is thrown aside. It is true, that bad habits of this nature are a good deal under the control of the gardener—the long shoots might have been stopped when it was seen that they meant to have it all their own way; but then they would turn sulky, get hide-bound, and you must either assist them to follow the bent of their own nature, and not allow them a foster-parent, but to grow on their own roots, when by an occasional cutting down to the ground they will make the best autumn bloomers we have.
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Discussion id : 76-405
most recent 1 FEB 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 FEB 14 by CybeRose
The rose amateur's guide (1840) p. 110
Thomas Rivers

Fulgorie, like the above [Queen Victoria], is also a hybrid Bourbon, with flowers of a deep purplish crimson, very double and perfect, blooming freely all the autumn, and growing most luxuriantly. This is certainly one of the best roses of its class and colour.
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Discussion id : 76-404
most recent 1 FEB 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 FEB 14 by CybeRose
The Rose Manual (1844) p. 110
Robert Buist
Fulgorie is a noble rose, of a rosy crimson colour, very large and perfect, producing its flowers in clusters like the old monthly cabbage, but always opening handsomely; the wood is very strong and thickly studded with prickles.
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Discussion id : 76-403
most recent 1 FEB 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 FEB 14 by CybeRose
The Cottage Gardener 7: 162-164 (Dec 11, 1851)
CLIMBING ROSES
Donald Beaton

I have often said how suitable the evergreen climbing roses were for budding other sorts on, but it is very different with the Ayrshire breeds; I have over and over again tried every one of them with other sorts, in great variety, but I did not succeed in establishing on them any, except two sorts, the Old White China and the Fulgoré, except it were on suckers, and these budded very low, near the ground; and, I believe, if it were desired, that all the free-growing hybrid perpetuals could be established on suckers of the Ayrshires. The Fulgoré, however, will flourish for years on any part of an Ayrshire rose, better than on any other stock whatever; it soon dies or gets out of order on the Dog-rose, and on that account the nurserymen have discontinued to grow it, although it is the latest and the most sweet rose we have. I do not see any advantage in growing the Old White China on any of them, unless it be that it flowers in the autumn; but sooner than let Fulgoré go out of cultivation, I would plant Bennet's Seedling on purpose to bud it with this delicious old rose, which is always more sweet the later in the season it blows. I once had it ten days before Christmas, and it was so sweet, that I might pass it off for a Cabbage rose, which it much resembles, and I should be very glad to hear that THE COTTAGE GARDENER was the means of saving it to the country. Many of the hybrid perpetuals are sweeter in October and November than at any other time, but there are none of them so sweet as Fulgoré, and none of them opens its flowers so late as it, except Madame Laffay.
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