"Hawthorndene Tennis Court South Rambler" rose Reviews & Comments
Also seen growing on a fence at Deloraine, N Tasmania.
I don't think it is near enough to red for a breeder to name it Bonfire.
I had to delete my earlier comment as I had included it with a reference. Here it is again:
Can those who grow "Hawthorndene Tennis Court South Rambler" please compare the timing of it and 'Excelsa'.
I am wondering if the foundling could be 'Bonfire' which was said to flower two weeks earlier than 'Excelsa'.
'Casimir Moulle' seems to fit "Hawthorndene Tennis Court South Rambler". The only trouble is I cannot find Australian references to it.
Continuing the thread from the ‘Sodenia’ comments window.
Thank you Christina. I really do appreciate your help. Paul Ploton certain did get to South Australia which is where this foundling was recovered. It was the only Australian reference that I have been able to find on a quick search.
I have read through the Helpmefind references for Paul Ploton and although a reference in 1910 (the same year that Paul Ploton came out) says the reverse is “lilac-y pink”; another 1916 reference puts Paul Ploton flowering earlier than Dorothy Perkins. I have a feeling that our rose flowers a little later, but I haven’t had it long enough to be quite sure.
Another 1916 reference says the blooms of ‘Paul Ploton’ are larger than ‘Minnehaha’, so now we need to check with ANYONE ??? who has ‘Minnehaha’ to see the size of the average bloom. My field report for my rose says the blooms are 3.75cm or 1½ wide. And if that ANYONE can also confirm that ‘Minnehaha’ has that same whitish reverse, that would be wonderful too.
Here is my Field Report-in-progress for this foundling. .
ROSE NO. 433
PROVISIONAL NAME “Hawthornden Tennis Court South Rambler ”
TODAY’S DATE Dec 15, 2007
SEEMINGLY IN WHICH GROUP Wichuraiana Rambler
ESTIMATED AGE OF PROPERTY
OTHER KNOWN HISTORY
MAIN FLOWER COLOUR Dark pink fading to lilac tones? Slightly paler on edges.
OTHER COLORS OR TINTINGS: Whitish reverse.
BUD - UPOPENED.
BUD - UNFOLDING.
BLOOM FORM flat imbricated rosette
BUTTON EYE. A hint of one on one blooms.
BLOOM SEASON Late (mid December)
BLOOM SIZE 3.75cm or 1½ “
BLOOM PETALS No. 50 PETALOID No. 10. TOTAL : 60
PETAL FORM OUTER: heart; INNER: wedge TEXTURE:
BLOOM PEDICEL- STIFF OR BENDING: stiff. SMOOTH OR PRICKLY: smooth
BLOOM FRAGRANCE None?
= BLOOM STAMEN. (MALE ORGAN). HIDDEN OR EVIDENT. Mostly hidden
= BLOOM PISTIL (FEMALE ORGAN). HIDDEN OR EVIDENT. None evident under a hand lens.
HIP CROP none
LEAF NUMBER Seven
LEAF COLOUR - MATURE
LEAF COLOUR - NEW. Light green
LEAF TEXTURE OR SURFACE Very smooth and shiny.
LEAF SIZE; LEAF
LEAFLET - TERMINAL.
LEAFLET - MID
LEAFLET - LOWER
LEAFLET - BASE
LEAFLET SHAPE - TIP
LEAFLET SHAPE - MID
LEAFLET SHAPE - LOWER
LEAFLET SHAPE - BASE
LEAF RACHIS Prickly under
LEAFLET PETIOLES. PETIOLULATE (ATTACHED BY A SHORT STALK): LEAFLET PETIOLES. SESSILE (ATTACHED DIRECTLY TO PETIOLE):
STIPULE Very fimbriated
PRICKLES - NEW PRICKLE COLOUR:
ORIGINAL BUSH - FORM
ORIGINAL BUSH - HEIGHT
ORIGINAL BUSH - WIDTH
ORIGINAL BUSH - GRAFTED
ORIGINAL BUSH - OWN ROOTS
CANES - NEW GROWTH COLOUR: Green
CANES - MATURE GROWTH COLOUR:
Does this cultivar remind you of any other? If so, which one, why, and why do you think it is not that other cultivar?