Bob, to your point regarding multiflora climbers and shade, I planted Psyche, a multiflora rambler as a band from Vintage Gardens this spring, hoping that it, like the other bands I received, might survive the season, set roots and maybe start growing in year two or three as is usually the case with own-root roses in my garden. But by the end of the season it had three canes each twelve feet in length, this despite the fact that it gets five hours sun, tops. If it were to multiply in size at the same rate next year and the year after, by the third or fourth year it would stretch hundreds of feet in every direction! I've never had to worry about that before. I'm hoping instead that it starts to bloom. The Garland probably does not get an hour of sun per day and it grew from 14 inches to six feet in one season. No bloom from it either, but the trees shading both of these roses are short enough that I expect both to grow out of their shade and enjoy many more hours in the sun, at least at the height of summer.

The sun was shining on the spot where I planted it when I put it in the ground, but through its first season I learned that Summer Wine got no more than five hours of sun per day. I feared that it would dwindle away to nothing by the end of the season, but it has continued to grow slowly. It's still not yet waist high, though, so I understand that it really needs more sun than would a typical multiflora rambler. It behaves as if it is quite satisfied living in zone 7b, but it has not been through one of our thrilling spring freeze-thaw roller-coaster rides yet. I know I must move it, and it's good to know it should be far from a path. I wonder, would it look good next to, say Graham Thomas? Or would one rose's color overpower the other's?