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"Madame de Tartas rose References
Magazine  (2023)  Page(s) 45. Vol 45, No. 4.  
 
Glennis Clark...Alexandra Pink Tea.   it is growing very well in Mornington resplendent with its distinctive hooked prickles!
Booklet  (2022)  Page(s) 10-11.  Includes photo(s).
 
"Alexandra Pink Tea"
Magazine  (Jun 2020)  Page(s) 11.  
 
John Niewesteeg. Greater Melbourne. 
One old rose that always keeps popping up is “Alexandra Pink Tea” / “Isabel Smith”. The Tea ladies from WA, quoted in the summer Journal of 2019 page 26, say that it is no longer thought to be Mme de Tartas (Bernède, 1859). I would like to know why that name isn’t correct. I can find no reason to believe the rose in question is not Mme de Tartas. But I see plenty in the rose to suggest that it is Mme de Tartas. I would like to know what other people think?
I do really like this rose; it always does well for me.
 
Website/Catalog  (21 May 2020)  
 
Mme. de Tartas (Aus Clone) Mid pink flowers with darker reverse on a vigorous shrub, study name was “Isabel Smith
Magazine  (2019)  Page(s) 26. Vol 41, No. 4.  Includes photo(s).
 
Margaret Furness. Mystery Teas in Australia.
“Alexandra Pink Tea” (Vic.) is the same as “Isabel Smith” (Rookwood). Circulated as Mme de Tartas but that name is no longer thought to be correct. Flowers are medium-sized, often in large clusters, and have a dry Tea scent. They are usually soft pink with darker reverses, but can be apricot in autumn. The petal edges curl back. Hips are large, round, bright orange. Tall upright growth. Below, young plant at Renmark. 
 
Magazine  (2012)  Page(s) 32, Vol 34, No. 3.  Includes photo(s).
 
"Isobel Smith" is thought to be the same as the "Alexandra Pink Tea" (collected Vic) in circulation as 'Mme. de Tartas'.
Book  (2008)  Page(s) 126.  
 
‘Mme. de Tartas’ has not been found so far on any early Australian nursery or garden lists.[*]  The rose sold as ‘Mme. de Tartas’ in Australia today was collected, unnamed, in country Victoria in the early 1990s and given its study name, which is no longer thought to be correct. A very similar rose is growing at Sydney’s Rookwood Cemetery; where it is known as Isobel Smith”.

[* Since found in a J. Grahame 1874 catalogue] 
Book  (2006)  Page(s) 84.  
 
[Referring to the plant believed to be Général Tartas:]
Général Tartas  Tea. Good, reliable rebloom. Outstanding fragrance. ..small and spreading habit.... Bernède, 1860 [Huntington i.d.]. Blush-pink with deep rose-pink, the guard petals rose red; these are large flowers profusely produced on a strong bush. Having grown this for many years and labeled it as it was identified at the Huntington, Mme. de Tartas, we are now fairly certain that [Général Tartas] is the correct name for this superb garden plant. ... In Australia this is grown as Souvenir d'un Ami, but there the real Mme. de Tartas we believe is correctly identified."
Magazine  (2003)  Page(s) 21. Vol 25, No. 1.  
 
Editor. Peter Cox. Lionel Chitts of Woodford telephoned..... Then concerning a statement in our Spring 2002 journal Vol 24, No. 3, p9, where l’Ouche is suggested as the possible name of the Cover Rose of our Autumn 2002 journal, Lionel has seen that rose and he is definite that it is not the Cover Rose. Incidentally, l’Ouche is, contrary to the statement made, still available in Australia and is listed in The Australian Rose Directory.
Magazine  (2003)  
 
Heritage Roses in Australia 7th National Conference, Hay, NSW, Proceedings.
p23. Barbara May and Jane Zammit. It is important to note that some of the best specimens you could wish to see anywhere,....like "Isabel Smith" and .... were propagated form the most appalling wood, the sort of material that the textbooks advise never to touch.
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