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'Tipsy Imperial Concubine' rose Reviews & Comments
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The first flowers on the two surviving OP seedlings balled. I can see why no-one has registered seedlings of this rose: but it is seed-fertile.
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13 NOV 22 by
 HubertG
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Maybe they might improve with time as they get stronger.
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27 JUN 21 by
Claire
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The good: blooms reliably with big flowers even in high heat that have good substance and hold up well. They are strongly scented with the juicy ripe grapefruit scent I associate with china roses like Spice. I've not had any major problems with balling. A great flower for Houston.
The bad: soon after I planted her at the front of the bed (thinking of the eventual height as 35 inches; this was in 2017 before more recent comments from AZ), she put out a strong basal cane thick as my thumb that insisted on growing straight up to about six feet (this after being cut back twice). The cane branched out at the top and was putting out lots of new growth at the tips so I decided to go with the flow and make a tree rose. I cut off the smaller wimpier canes at the bottom. This worked for a couple years, she just kept on flowering at the top, but this spring we have had more rain than usual and she put out three strong new basals all going straight up, which I haven't the heart to cut off. I'll to have to bite the bullet and move her farther back though I worry she won't survive the transition. Maybe will start a cutting first. Anyway height dimensions given here do not seem to apply to hot places, where she definitely does not top off at 35 inches. Anticipate a tall fairly narrow shrub to six feet - perhaps more.
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27 JUN 21 by
HubertG
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That's a very interesting pattern of growth which makes me wonder even more if this is in fact on old European Hybrid Tea 'rediscovered' in China.
I wish I still had my plant but it looks like no one has it anymore in Australia. Mine never got that tall. I loved the fragrance!
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Same growth pattern here in Germany - cant comment though on year to year comparisons, as mine freezes to the ground every year. It always comes back, but takes its time....
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Claire, Where are you located? I've been looking everywhere to buy the plant, but Greenmantle doesn't ship to FL and Angel Gardens does have a mother plant but only does it by custom propagation (an extra $25 plus plant and shipping and handling).
Do you remember where you got yours?
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29 SEP 21 by
Claire
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I would have said Rose Petals Nursery but I can't confirm that. They don't seem to sell it now tho they do carry sui mei ren which appears similar to me. I have moved mine and it is still recovering and not back to its old shape. I might be able to take some cuttings next summer. I am in Houston.
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Claire, if that becomes needed, that'd be very generous and much appreciated. I recently found it on Long Ago Roses' 2021 inventory list. I've sent an email simply expressing my hope that they continue to offer it in 2022. Unfortunately, I will have to wait until late November to know. Still looking around. I called Northland Rosarium last week and they were very kind - they said they got it in the 90s but for one reason or another they don't have it or don't offer it anymore.
It's interesting to find something that used to be offered as a staple almost like the Peace rose go away in 10yrs.
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See the comments about what it does in spring.
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I might be missing what you're referring to - I see the comment posted by claire in June of this year saying that the plant seems to throw new basal canes straight up every few years. I like getting new basal canes. I actually try to encourage them.
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See Discussion id 118-056, by NikosR, as well as various comments attached to photos.
Apparently TIC has a severe tendency to ball in spring in some climates, so it can spend a lot of time looking like rubbish. I might try it sometime anyway, as spring is often dry where I am.
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29 SEP 21 by
Claire
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It has not balled for me that I can remember. It can be shy of flowers and like most roses will go semi dormant in July/August. But it has flowers, the flowers will be good - they generally open, always smell good, and keep their size and petal count in all seasons.
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Here, in Southern Germany, it sure balls a lot in rainy springs...but if the blooms open - its just wonderful
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In my Mediterranean climate, zone 9b, every flower balled in spring. I don't keep roses that look disgusting for a third of the growing season. (E Veyrat Hermanos was another one I removed.)
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Available from - Long Ago Roses
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6 MAR 20 by
KK
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My Tipsy is planted in a pot in Central AZ; still in the 100s in the summer--hot and dry. Beautiful blooms, fragrant and -- taller than the roof in one season.
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6 MAR 20 by
HubertG
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I grew mine in a large pot as well and it started to climb up the house too. I wish I still had it.
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