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'Raspberry Cream Twirl' rose Reviews & Comments
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4 JUN 20 by
Unregistered Guest
Available from - Stargazer Perennials http://www.stargazerperennials.com/home.html
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'Raspberry Cream Twirl' is being offered by Northland Rosarium this year.
https://www.northlandrosarium.com/products/raspberry-cream-twirl-meieratol
They call it a shrub of about 5', which is likely what cold zoners can expect.
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Fairly healthy climber, with very few prickles! Sadly, the colors and form kind of muddle from more than 5' away.... I think it was intended to be romantic looking, but its hard to see the stripes :[
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#1 of 1 posted
14 MAY 17 by
Carol T
I agree, it isn't great to look at, unless you're looking directly at it.
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I ordered from Edmunds & planted two. One died over a mild winter in Boston Massachusetts area & I replaced it & both suffered from three bad winters in a row. I lost 10 year old well established (2006) Climbing Iceberg this past winter 2015-2016. One Raspberry Cream Twirl has started blooming last week of May 2016, other next to it (both own root- one planted 2012, replacement for 2012 in 2013) is barely alive & isn't 8 inches tall.
I have ARS Modern Roses open & there is no picture, but description has code name 'Meitaratol' introduced by Edmunds in 2012. Neither of mine show any sign of growing any taller than 5-6 feet. But, we have had three brutally cold winters from 2013-2014, 2014-2015 and 2015-2016. Modern Roses lists this as being 10-12 feet tall.
We have had below zero temperatures in January before we broke snow record in 2015. We had same subzero temps in January 2016 & we didn't have any snow storms worth remembering. I do not winter protect except to add extra cedar mulch around bases of roses or bud unions if I didn't plant deep enough to bury bud unions.
I live in small city 4-6 miles from Boston, depending on where I'm going & which route I decide to take.
Does anyone have Edmunds Raspberry Cream Twirl that doesn't grow as a climber?
I found here link to Otto & Sons Nursery & printed list of climbers, repeat, disease resistance, fragrance, size of bloom, ARS rating, etc.
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Carol: I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your favorite roses. Last winter 2015 was bad .. we had icy-rain in December which leaked through my roof ...the rain flooded my zone 5a garden, then froze roses' roots in my poor-drainage clay. My Knock-outs were only a few inch. tall early June, so I killed them. I lost Bolero since it's near the rain-spout, and got drown in freezing rain in Dec.
University of Vermont has a pdf-file on how plants survive winter, they state that plants prefer it on the dry side going into winter. Dry cold is more bearable than wet-cold which roots rot with too much wetness, plus crack when the water freezes.
When I dug up dead Bolero, I saw a thick layer of heavy clay and rocks underneath that blocked water from draining properly ... so I dug deeper, 2 feet wide and at least 2.5 feet deep, to throw out the heavy clay & rocks that block water. The drainage is excellent now, I can pour a 5-gallon bucket and the water sinks in immediately, rather than flood over. I did the same for the 10 holes to prepare for 10 roses that ordered recently through Roses Unlimited 1/2 price sale this recent June 8, 2016.
Google "What's happening at RU" second week of June and you'll see that sale for gallon-size own-root for $10 each. Roses Unlimited roses are big, so I can plant them directly into my clay.
There's a spot that roses always blackspot, no matter what. So I dug down to 2 feet wide, and 2.5 feet deep, and found a giant rock, the size of a long watermelon .. that blocked the water from going down. In heavy clay, roses black-spot due to water not draining fast enough. I cut roses for the vase often, if I leave them for more than 3 days, leaves start to blackspot in the vase.
Good drainage, through digging deep, is the key for healthy roses and winter-survival as well. I fix my heavy clay with coarse sand, gypsum, and chunky organic matter.
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#2 of 7 posted
27 JUN 16 by
Carol T
I have maple tree roots competing with more than half of my rose garden. I ordered two Above All Climbers, Louise Estes & paid full price for Pinnacle from Roses Unlimited. I planted the two Above All roses in my back yard ( where there are thousands of maple tree roots) & replaced roots with 20 pound bag of worm castings in the planting hole. I think RU is the best for own root roses. Full price roses there are cheaper than a competitor that charges $27 for a 4 x 4 banded pot.
Another tip included with a mini & Miniflora rose company adds in planting instructions to add mulch to planting hole. I've added cedar mulch to every roses I've planted in the last three years.
Thank you.
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Thank you !! Agree to putting mulch in the planting hole. Heirloom Rose nursery also recommended 50% wood-chips mixed with clay for aeration ... roots need air pockets to grow.
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#4 of 7 posted
28 APR 17 by
Carol T
I find adding mulch in planting hole really does make roses grow faster.
No one has answered my original question about Radpberry Cream Twirl. Five years old Now & it's no taller than 4-5 feet. An animal must have dig up smaller one. I can see hole in soil & rose is gone.
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I'm so sorry about your loss of that rose. I have rabbits and deer who used to eat my roses, then I bought a $3 HUGE container of cheap & stinky curry powder from Mexican store. Animals won't even come near curry, but Irish Spring Soap, garlic powder, and hot pepper didn't work !!
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#6 of 7 posted
28 APR 17 by
Carol T
I'll try that. Racoons, skunks & last summer a man down The Street told me about a huge white possum. I was out in here after dark & using lights that go on & off by sensors & saw that ugly white face come out from under my car. I rushed to put things away to go in.
I honestly didn't think we had those critters here because I live in small city & not in Boston suburbs with a lot of land or woods.
It's the first day I've been out in garden today. I hate Spring pruning. I've been in same two small beds for a few hours.
I was spraying rags with ammonia & that didn't help last year. It made me feel sick when pouring it.
Thank you!
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Thank you for your honesty & sharing experience. Edmunds' roses are grafted on Dr. Huey, which can't handle rain mid-winter, then freeze. So I grow mostly own-root roses. I hope that more people would post info about their planting zone, own-root or what type of rootstock, type of soil, amount of rainfall when talk about particular rose.
Some roses like Lagerfeld can survive zone 5 winter easily for a loamy soil/full sun person, but will die in heavy clay. Or Meilland French own-root Sweet Promise thrived in my wet heavy clay, in the same spot that Knock-out (grafted on Dr.Huey) could not. I will put more info. on soil & moisture preference & amount of sun for each of the 100 varieties of own-root that I have grown. I hope others do the same, own-root are $$$, we can help one another NOT to lose roses through winters, by choosing the right own-root for our soil/climate.
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