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Discussion id : 169-660
most recent 2 JAN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 JAN by lewkat
Available from - One Love Rose and Gardens
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Discussion id : 146-523
most recent 11 JUL 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 JUL 23 by Deborah's rose Garden
I ordered from Chamblee's and now they are closed permanently. What a shame! I think Sonnenwelt would have loved my garden...
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Discussion id : 131-187
most recent 18 FEB 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 15 JAN 22 by Michael Garhart
I am fairly sure the female parent is Caramel Fairy Tale. I am not quite sure of the male parent, but I am guessing something like Charles Austin.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 15 JAN 22 by jedmar
It shows how much the statements of parentage in patent applications are worth: Multitudes of "Unnamed seedling x Unnamed seedling" in the past 30 years at least.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 16 FEB 22 by Michael Garhart
Unfortunately, seedling, un-named seedlings, unknown, etc. is typically bull poopoo.

Enough times it is a known commercial cultivar, even at the time of application. Even then, they KNOW.

At least Weeks likes to play a little naming game with people.

I can understand if a parent is a string of known cultivars, but there is no excuse for most of the actions.

I believe it is mostly because the big European breeders are in such close proximity and dont want to admit "trade secrets" or that they use each others stuff.

Big deal, no one cares. Honestly. Just let the consumer know what's what. Should be customary if its simple enough.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 16 FEB 22 by jedmar
It is stupid, because one could cross the same two roses many times and would get a differing result each time. Why do patent authorities accept such nonsense?
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 18 FEB 22 by Michael Garhart
Correct, and even if they made a similar rose, it takes a decade to get to the point of even releasing the parentage. At that point, who cares? You're already ahead of the game by leagues, if the rose turns out important. Which is almost never the case anyway.
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Discussion id : 128-160
most recent 17 JUN 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 JUN 21 by NewDawn
Available from - Freedom gardens
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