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'JACnizea' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 126-812
most recent 31 AUG 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 APR 21 by Michael Garhart
It just occurred to me that they named this rose to be a synonym for 'Secret'.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 31 AUG 22 by MADActuary
The world may love Secret as you state below but for me, in my conditions of zone 5b near Chicago, Soft Whisper is a superior rose to Secret in just about every way. Very upright grower, vigorous, fragrant, long lasting in vase and beautiful soft coloring. Disease free for me with 10-14 day spraying.

Secret is somewhat of an unruly grower and is prone to yellowing lower leaves as the season wears on in my garden. Yes Secret has fragrance and a very attractive bloom but it has nothing on Soft Whisper in the fragrance or bloom beauty departments. Secret is a good rose but Soft Whisper is better than good. It's another underrated and underplanted Keith Zary HT which everyone should grow.

Commercial success does not always equate to quality (e.g. Rose Rhapsody) as you well know.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 31 AUG 22 by Michael Garhart
I agree. Secret is not a good plant at all. Mine died from a flash freeze here many years ago.

Edit: I think my overall point is moaning about white blend and pink blend being so oversaturated as a large chunk of choices.

Rose shows are similar. Like 50 billion 'Gemini' lining the tables and its like... Why did I go again?

So, yeah, I'm just whining about the phenomenon :]
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Discussion id : 125-590
most recent 9 FEB 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 FEB 21 by Matthew 0rwat
After another year I conclude that this rose is a bit slow growing, but strong. It's sparse blooms are huge, stunning and wonderfully fragrant and should be more widely planted in a cutting garden.
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Discussion id : 84-342
most recent 11 MAY 19 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 16 APR 15 by Michael Garhart
Hmmm.. looks like another descendant of New Zealand.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 19 MAR 16 by goncmg
Already pulled from the J&P catalog after only 2 years. Didn't ever see it in the local garden centers that are inundated with the J&P army.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 19 MAR 16 by Michael Garhart
If JP ever wants to be popular again, its probably a good thing for them. The world needs another "pink/white blend" HT like it needs a hole in its foot. Besides, the world has spoken for quite a long time. It loves 'Secret'. And JP produced one of the best white HTs to date, PJP2. Like, give these colors a rest for a while and sell new ideas, lol.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 11 MAY 19 by Matthew 0rwat
I felt the same as you until I saw this at a rose show last week. It’s a huge high centered flower with loads of potential as an exhibition rose. Gigantic stems and large dark green foliage. Plus, it has a deep intense fragrance very different from Secret and more llike Fragrant Cloud or Firefighter. It was available on the $8 sale so I ordered 2!.
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Discussion id : 88-890
most recent 27 OCT 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 OCT 15 by Michael Garhart
I am going to assume this is the same rose as "JACnezea"

"Variety denomination: The new plant has the varietal denomination `JACnizea`.

BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION

This invention relates to a new and distinct variety of Hybrid Tea Rose. It has as its seed parent the variety known as `JACnepal` (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 11,691) and as the pollen parent MACgenev (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 8,279)."

-US Patent PP25,979
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 27 OCT 15 by Patricia Routley
Could be. JACnezea was a pink blend HT. JACnizea was cream edged pink.
The details in the page are for JACnizea and I have made JACnezea a hidden synonym pending further information.
Thanks again Michael.
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