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'Ball of Snow' rose Reviews & Comments
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Hi. Just became a member and I have a question. I grew some roses many years ago and want to start growing them again. I'm very interested in two bourbons and cannot make up my mind as to which one. First, Mme. Earnest Calvat or Boule de Neige. I'm in northeastern Ohio, zone 5b and I want very fragrant roses. I love both roses forms, but, I've read that BdN is not very fragrant, yet, it is disease resistant, where MEC is not. I've done as much reading as I can find on both roses. Can anyone growing BdN give me any information on it's scent and the strength of it? I would sure appreciate it as BdN is a more practical rose for me, but, if it's not very fragrant I will pass it up.
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#1 of 7 posted
5 NOV 22 by
Frenzy
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Boule de Neige ist very fragrant, has strong Bourbon/Centifolia fragrance. Also very disease resistant. It will definitely need winter protection in zone 5b though. If I had to chose between BdN and MEC, I would go with BdN.
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Thank you, Frenzy I appreciate the info. I'm in zone 6a and I've read that BDN is winter hardy to zone 5. What is confusing is different nurseries say different things about it. Angel Gardens says it is slightly fragrant and Peter Beale says strong rose scent. When I made the first post I assumed I was still in zone 5 and later found out it's changed to 6. However, I plan on giving all my new roses winter protection for the first year. BND has a smaller rose, but, the shape is just beautiful as are her buds.
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I don’t do any winter protection here in Spokane (my yard is very cold; likely more zone 5 than 6). It usually sails through just fine it’s on the east side of the house.
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For my white roses I ended up getting Madame Plantier, an Alba, and am ordering Madame Hardy as soon as one comes available. I am also getting Konigin Von Danemark ( Queen of Denmark), also and Alba because of their disease resistance and beautiful blooms and fragrance. I planted Madame Plantier late last summer and I worried about it dying over the winter, but, it's leafing out beautifully and looking very healthy, though, small.
Thank you for your reply, princess.
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May I ask where did you find KvD?
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#6 of 7 posted
12 APR by
 Lee H.
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I got mine from David Austin US, but alas, they are sold out for this season.
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Both Heirloom Roses and High Country Roses have Konigin Von Danemark. It's such a beautiful rose I don't care if it only blooms once a year. Both roses are sold out right now, but, will be available soon, so, keep lookiing at these sites or put in a wish for them and they will email you when they are ready.
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Does the bloom really smell like milk?
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Someone in 1895 thought so. Perhaps they were looking at a creamy white bloom.
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28 MAY 21 by
Lesky
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Rose Petals Nursery is currently carrying this rose. I bought one from them in 2019 but it appears to be a mislabeled plant of Madame Plantier.
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Those wondrous Lacharme hybrids from an extinct Damask perpetual named 'Sappho' and a Bourbon (or Noisette, as some would have it) are, alas, almost all out of commerce now in North America.
I am fascinated to learn that you can grow BdN in zone 5b; would you mind telling us something about its' site, and how much winter protection it needs?
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#2 of 2 posted
30 MAY 21 by
Lesky
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I am updating my response. After making a comparison to my 'Boule de Neige' to a plant I have of Madame Plantier, which is 2 years old and just blooming this year, I realize the two appear to be one and the same--I believe my BdN was mislabeled and, as I had no previous experience with it or MP, didn't question it until now. I very much like the rose, but I apologize for misleading anyone that it was an noteworthy and successful Boule de Neige!
I did previously mention that Hummingbird Roses in northern Michigan has BdN on her list-it so happened that I was able to physically visit her and verified that her parent plant of BdN is definitely more like the descriptions and character that I had read, with shiny, larger, darker green coloring in the foliage and a less lanky habit than what I have growing. In doublechecking, I saw a photo here from May of 2013 of a plant that was labeled BdN but questioned by knowledgeable rosarians, one of whom suggested it was an Alba. Sure enough, my plant looks like that one, and since I could make a direct comparison to Mme. Plantier, I feel confident they are the same.
All to say that, what I was crowing about is not BdN, but Mme. Plantier or another Alba. (I'm removing my photo of it from this rose commentary and may post it under MP.) I'm also going to keep trying to get a Boule de Neige!
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Can someone comment on the repeat flowering of this Bourbon? Thanks.
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