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RoseThe Generous Gardener most recent 17 AUG 08 SHOW ALL

Initial post 11 FEB 06 by david*dahlia

Reply #1 of 7 posted 1 MAR 06 by Unregistered Guest

i actually ordered this rose in 2005 when it was introduced in the american catalog, but my plant was labelled wrong =(
i was so looking forward to this rose too. my plant was tagged as generous gardener, but when it bloomed, it was actually heritage. when i called to get a replacement, it turns out that they had made a mistake with many of the grafts and so "the generous gardener" would not be available this season. very unfortunate, so i got carding mill instead. hope that answers your question!

Reply #2 of 7 posted 5 APR 06 by david*dahlia

Reply #3 of 7 posted 6 APR 06 by HMF supporting member

Kim Rupert

Thank you for sharing your information! Without first hand experience with situations like this, who could give a suitable answer? Problems like this occur with growers frequently. Back in the 1980s, Armstrong Roses registered several mauve Hybrid Teas, which I expectantly waited to see introduced. All three were Armstrong exclusives. It took several years for them to make it to market. The "official" reason given was a field mistake had been made. The wrong field was plowed under, destroying many of the new plants instead of those intended for destruction. From the looks of the few that made it to market, I could believe it. I guess I should have expected the varieties would turn out to be disappointing. Not one of the three were really any good, but with names like Plum Crazy, Quicksilver and Silverado, I had to hope!

Reply #4 of 7 posted 26 JUN 06 by Unregistered Guest

There is definitely something mysterious about this Generous Gardener. ;-)

I ordered one from a German nursery in Spring 05, and was very happy with this rose. Sometimes I wondered why the colour was so different from the Austin photo, but only recently I discovered that I haven't got the GG, but the Scepter'd Isle (excellent rose, btw). And it seems I'm not the only one who got an Isle for a Gardener (and not being aware), so it is not easy to find photos of the "real one" except for the official Austin photos. Of the 5 photos here at HMF I removed my 2 Scepter'd Isle and of the remaining three I think only two are GGs.

Renate

Reply #5 of 7 posted 5 DEC 07 by jude the obscure

I'm not sure why some of the posts on this board just disappear. I posted about the Generous Gardener a year ago.
The rose was introduced in 2005 or 06 in the American catalog. I ordered it but I received Heritage instead. When I contacted DA to correct the problem, they were unable to ship me a new GG for the next year. It turns out that they had incorrectly grafted a bunch of the GG's and so the rose would be unavailable the next season. That was also the reason so many of us received "pink" generous gardeners. I'm fairly sure my "GG" rose is Heritage - due to the scent, petal formation and thornless canes.

I ended up ordering GG as an own root from chamblees, but will probably be ordering another one from DA this season assuming they've fixed the mix up.

It also looks like many of the images in the photo section are indeed not GG.

Reply #7 of 7 posted 17 AUG 08 by Unregistered Guest

correction: looks like the incorrectly grafted rose as "queen of sweden", not Heritage as I previously thought. I ordered "Queen of sweden" this year and the flowers match my incorrect Generous Gradener	REPLY