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Patricia Routley 
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In May 2025 all remaining roses on the property are to be removed by the current owners. Sic transit gloria mundi.
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The world beat a well trodden path to Renmark to see that wonderful garden. I went three times and those visits remain the highlight of my intense interest in old roses. Renmark will be the poorer for we will never travel to see a lucerne paddock. My deep thanks go to you Margaret, Pat and all the other rosarians who have made those many long trips up to Renmark to record, prune, plant and deposit and collect budwood over the years.
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Thank you. Every visit gave a quantum leap of knowledge.
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Is this rose still available anywhere here in Europe? From the description page on this site, it appears that at least it was sold in Germany and Switzerland, but on the "buy from " page no European nurseries are listed.
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Would you like to email Kordes and enquire? Please let us know. This is possibly an example of a nursery missing out on a sale because they are not listing their roses on HelpMeFind.
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#2 of 3 posted
15 MAR by
eihblin
I did e-mail Kordes, but have recieved no reply, alas.
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#3 of 3 posted
15 MAR by
jedmar
No longer on sale in Switzerland
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It seems to me that Hot Pants (Floribunda. Horner, 2011) HORjones Breeder shown as Heather Horner, might be the same rose as Beverly-Ann HORcojones Colin Horner 2000 ?
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Certainly looks like the same rose on Ludwig's catalog site. At least the photos. Ludwig's always has wacky dimensions, so those can be ignored. No way to prove this though, but good to note it.
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22 FEB by
jedmar
The reference for 'Beverly Ann' in the Australian Rose Annual of 2010 states that the Breeder code is HORjones, i.e. the same as 'Hot Pants'. The code HORcojones in Modern Roses 12 seems to me to be a sick joke. There is also a photo of 'Beverly Ann' in Modern Roses 12. According to the listing in the Australian Rose Annual, the breeder is Colin Horner, however the rose was introduced posthumously as 'Beverly Ann' by Horner family members.
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Dear HMF,
AM668 is now AUDREY FLEUROT® Meicatess
So far, only available in Europe ;)
Matthias
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6 OCT 22 by
jedmar
Thank you, Matthias!
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Hoping it makes its way to America. Beautiful rose!
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This is now available in the USA from Menagerie Farm & Flower in the USA as Loves Me, Loves Me Not™.
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Thanks for letting me know
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Taysdragon, do you have a label please, or website that links MEIcatess with ‘Loves Me, Loves Me Not’. Thanks.
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#6 of 15 posted
10 JAN 24 by
jedmar
Same photo as on Meilland's website
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Aha - thanks Jedmar.
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hello HMF,
Using the same picture doesn't mean it is the same variety. Couple of example :
1) A close up picture of Baipeace can be use for Baipeacesar (climbing mutation, but flower is similare)
2) Another was the mistake by Barni of using the picture of ARTHUR RIMBAUD® Meihylvol for their variety 'Serenata' (no varietal name).
But I confirm that Meicatess is now sold in US by Menagerie Farm & Flower under the trademark 'Loves Me, Loves Me Not™'
Matthias
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10 JAN 24 by
jedmar
Thank you for the confirmation, Matthias!
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Thank you for confirming this Matthias!
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Thank you very much, Matthias!
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'Meicatess' is listed in the details section on Menagerie Farm & Flower Loves Me, Loves Me Not™ page. I should have included that information earlier. Sorry about that. For some reason, HMF will not allow me to add a direct link to that webpage.
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Thanks TaysDragon. I hadn’t opened the ‘details’ section- should have looked harder.
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#14 of 15 posted
12 JAN 24 by
Ericchn
The link should begin directly with www in order to be seen.
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#15 of 15 posted
4 FEB by
Benaminh
New for my region in 2024. Label from local nursery in Northern California.
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