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Patricia Routley 
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Interesting that Helen Van Pelt Wilson (1955 reference) says 'May Queen'...."tends to bloom all season".
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#1 of 1 posted
5 days ago by
mballen
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It depends what she meant by "season." My mother was a close friend of someone who copyedited that book and who complained that it tended to be somewhat unclear. That said, I loved that book and had it practically memorized.
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"[0004] The new variety of hybrid tea rose plant of the present invention was created by controlled breeding in May 2008 in Sparrishoop, Germany by artificial pollination wherein two parents were crossed which previously had been studied in the hope that they would contribute the desired characteristics. The female parent (i.e., the seed parent) was an unnamed seedling (non-patented). The male parent (i.e., the pollen parent) of the new variety was a seedling from a cross of `Macgenev` (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 8,279) x unnamed seedling' (non-patented in the United States).
[0005] The parentage of the new variety can be summarized as follows:
unnamed seedling.times.('Macgenev' x unnamed seedling)"
-US PP Application #20210092888
They refer to it as a hybrid tea, so it may grow close to a grandiflora in America, or perhaps an application error. Unsure.
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Thank you Michael. Details added
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I am wondering if the codename doesn't mean 'Carmen Wurth' sister, which would be pretty funny.
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8 days ago by
jac123
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They do have similar colors, shape, and blooming patterns. Both varieties are cluster flowered - but not in the sense that they have a cluster of flowers at the end of each cane. Rather (at least in the first flush) the last ten or so buds of each cane lead to a single flower with its own long stem. It could be quite interesting for anyone breeding for home cut flower varieties, as you get a good number of individual blooms with sufficient stem length for a home composition. Not that interesting for commercial production, however
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12 days ago by
HubertG
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The description page says this is "a Hybrid Gigantea" but I can't see anything in the references here to support that. Is there some other reference to Gigantea blood not included? I can see similarities with 'Hadley' and 'Princeps' in 'Editor Stewart', so I'm wondering is it's one of Clark's favoured seed parents pollinated with 'Princeps'.
The fact that it was recommended as a hedge suggests it must have had a degree of retention of its foliage in winter. So perhaps there is Gigantea in it after all.
Also, to anyone who has experience of 'Editor Stewart', does it produce hips?
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11 days ago by
jedmar
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Maybe one of our Australian members can comment on this?
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HubertG, originally from Modern Roses 12 in 2007. But I do agree, Editor Stewart doesn’t look like a hybrid gigantea to me (but they don’t grow well down here).
I’ve checked my photos and have no hip photos, sorry. I’ve deleted the main page reference to Hybrid Gigantea.
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#3 of 3 posted
9 days ago by
HubertG
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Thanks, Patricia, for that clarification and for looking at your photos for hips. I just scoured all the photos here looking for anything resembling hips, couldn't see any, but in the process noticed no thorns on any of the stems. Now I'm even more intrigued. Is it also relatively thornless? Now I'm wondering if 'Bardou Job' or 'Blackboy' might be in its background. I might have to order this one in this winter.
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Good morning Patricia, Is there any information on Helpmefind regarding Susan Irvine's Cream Tea? I have tried searching and get no results.
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No. Only Reply #6 of 7 posted 28 JAN 15 in the discussion 82-818 for “Mystery Cream Tea”.
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