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Initial post 15 JUL 06 by mamayork

Hi,

Calling all experts, please help me identify this rose. OK, I purchased this rose last fall from a local nursery here in Northern Texas. It didn't have a tag and they didn't know what it was. So they gave it to me for free. It is a great rose and a bright spot in the garden. I would describe it as a loose semi double that is lemon yellow . It has been in nearly constant bloom since I purchased it. The leaves are glossy and medium green. The fragrance is a mild spicy/tea. The blooms are in clusters and its growth is like a shrub, very bushy but not out of control. It has a moderate growth rate. It did well with the winter here without protection. My guess is that it is a modern shrub or floribunda but I'm rather new at all this. So, any and all help is greatly appreciated in identifying this rose.

Thanks

MamaYork (Pam)

Reply #1 of 13 posted 15 JUL 06 by Jody

Hi how tall is your rose?? This is a wild guess but could it be the Minature, Baby Eclipse. The site info doesn't have a pix but says it gets 39" x 39" and blooms in flushes all season. Also states it is hybrid tea bloom form. I have the Random House Book of Roses and it is says this is a very tall plant with large blooms. The pix they show looks just like the bloom to the bottom right of your photo. I may be way off here, just a guess. This is a really pretty rose and how great you got it for free. Good Luck with the ID. Jody

Reply #2 of 13 posted 15 JUL 06 by mamayork

This is a fairly tall rose bush. It was in a two gallon pot when I bought it. I've had it for a year and I would say it is about 4 ft tall and about 3 feet wide. I wouldn't say it has a hybrid tea bloom form though. It is more loose and more like a single to semi double form with 10-14 petals. It is a great rose though at least 30-40 blooms almost all the time. You could say the foliage is semi gloss or glossy depending on the season. The reason I was thinking a grandiflora or floribunda is because it has multiple blooms on the same stem. So, its not one you can cut the blooms for a vase or an arrangement because the stem would only be about 2 inches. There are usually anywhere from 3-5 blooms clustered together. It is fairly disease resistant. I had a bought of blackspot early on but once I got rid of that it's been disease free ever since.

Reply #3 of 13 posted 16 JUL 06 by Jody

Hi well this is an interesting rose to ID. It sounds like it is alot taller than the one I was looking at. But the pix I have looks like a Floribunda, not a tea, and very much like your pix. Very pretty rose whatever it is.. Good Luck.. Jody	REPLY

Reply #4 of 13 posted 16 JUL 06 by greg

I'm no expert but this rose looks like it could be Golden Showers. Golden Showers is only once blooming though but it does put on a good show. Try the search on this site and see what you think.	REPLY

Reply #5 of 13 posted 16 JUL 06 by Jody

Hi Greg, I don't think it's Golden Showers. Golden Showers has 20-30 petal count where as Pam says this has 10-14 but I have two books that says Golden Showers IS a repeat bloomer. The blossoms looks more like Golden Wings blosoms shape to me , but that has single petals and this is a semi double. . But I am no expert either. What do you think Pam?	REPLY

Reply #6 of 13 posted 16 JUL 06 by mamayork

OK, I went and looked at all the pictures of the Golden Showers on the web.

I don't think its Golden Showers for the following reasons

- The blooms on our mystery rose usually only have about 10 petals and is more like a single to semi double.

- The foliage is a bit different. The leaves on GS seem to be a bit more fat whereas our mystery rose they are kind of narrow with serraded edges and kind of fold slightly in the middle so they look kind of pointy.

- The GS is only a single bloom cycle and our mystery rose literally blooms continuously year round (no lie had some late fall early winter and still blooming now)

- The GS has blooms that are one per stem whereas the mystery rose has 3-5 blooms at the top of a stem with about an inch or two down before it connects to a hub at the main stem (hope that makes sense)

- I may be wrong but I don't think it is a climber.

Thanks though, the more we eliminate the closer we narrow it down :-)

Reply #7 of 13 posted 16 JUL 06 by Anonymous-104703

I THINK I FOUND IT!!

I think it might be Carefree Sunshine. The photos look just like it but this site doesn't have much info. So I did a search on the web and here is what it says about it. The description seems to match too

It is a Modern Shrub, one site lists its dimensions as 4ft H x 4ft W, Very Disease Resistant, pale lemon yellow non fading blooms (mine also do not fade even in the hot Texas sun), other gardeners comments on hortiplex.gardenweb.com say it is a large shrub maybe even could be trained as a climber, Has sprays of blooms Spring/June through late fall/frost, has very little fragrance, winter hardy but also tolerates hot summers. Some sites list it as a single others as a semi double. Its foliage is listed as medium green glossy or semi glossy.

Another reason I suspect this is that its breeder is the same as the Knock Out rose. The nursery had a ton of Knock Out roses sitting right next to this one when I found it and it was the lone yellow rose. It was introduced in 2001 and that nursery rarely has anything but modern roses. It may be a stretch but maybe not ?

So what do you all think? Do you think I've found a match? Does anyone have a carefree sunshine that could compare?

Regards and many thanks

mamayork (pam)

Reply #8 of 13 posted 17 JUL 06 by Unregistered Guest

Reply #9 of 13 posted 17 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Reply #10 of 13 posted 23 JUL 06 by Unregistered Guest

Hello. :)You migh like to take a look at this site and perhaps post your rose there. www.foundroses.comBye,Penny. :)	REPLY

Reply #11 of 13 posted 23 JUL 06 by Jody

Hi Penny How are you? I think your mean www.foundroses.org? it doesn't connect with com. Thanks for writing about this. Now, if I could just "find a rose". Take Care Jody	REPLY

Reply #12 of 13 posted 24 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Hello Jody.Whoops, your'e quite right. .org, not .com. :) It would be great to find a rose to post - I think you could post ones you saw in untenanted houses, gardens, etc. Good luck with the hunt. Bye, Penny.	REPLY

Reply #13 of 13 posted 24 JUL 06 by Jody

Thanks Penny. I think it'd be cool to find a rose and have it named after you like Darlow's Engima. Jody	REPLY