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There are a few elements that points to Attilio Ragionieri as breeder of this rose. 1) Ferdinando Scarlatti and Attilio Ragionieri were working in the same period in Florence and were "acquainted" and it would be right for him to baptize a unnamed rose with the name of his dead friend; 2) this rose is, strangerly enough for the period, a HP; 3) in Costa azzurra agricola floreale 1930 page 314 Attilio Ragionieri wrote "Il Dr. A. Ragionieri ha fecondato a Castello (Firenze), i fiori di R. gigantea col polline di alcune delle più belle varietà del commercio (1). … Dall’incrocio con la var. Prince Camille de Rohen, ottenne una pianta vigorosa, che ha cominciato a fiorire abbastanza presto: i suoi fiori ben doppi, molto grandi, a lunghissimi petali, hanno il colore di quelli della varietà Ulrich Brunner e sono molto odorosi" (translation Attilio Ragionieri in Castello (Florence) bred flowers of R. gigantea with pollen of some well known varieties (ref 1). The cross with Prince Camille de Rohan gave a vigorous plant, that started rather early to bloom: the flowers are well double, very large with very long petals, the colour is similar to Ulrich Brunner and are very odorous); 4) the reference 1 quotes a 1926 article by Ragionieri (I did not find it jet).; 5) Prince Camille de Rohan is a HP with "the right colour" ... Not one prove but certainly many many hints ...
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This theory (Ragionieri being the breeder) has a lot going for it. Dr. Attilio Ragionieri, a medical doctor, hybridized a wide range of plants for fun; he died suddenly the morning of October 11, 1933. I see a snippet in Costa Azzurra Agricola Floreale of 1932 (p. 21) stating "Attilio Ragionieri Il premio di Roma per le rose" ("Attilio Ragionieri the Rome prize for roses," presumably meaning he was awarded said prize) which, frustratingly, I don't seem to be able to find the expanded verson of; but at the least it confirms that Ragionieri was involved with roses. Meantime, the firm of Ferdinando Scarlatti was active in Florence (3–5 Via Giovanni Berchet) and, for some period, also in Rome (149 Corso Umberto 1), during these early decades of the 20th century, Scarlatti himself still being alive at least into the mid-1920s. I don't seem to be able to find a death-date for Scarlatti, which would (obviously) assist in fine-tuning the date of the rose; the "ca. 1925" which has been attached to this rose has a good chance of being quite accurate. I post this hoping that it will help others find further pertinent information.
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Catalogo Rose Barni 1992 page 20
Rossellana
Barni 1990 Barros
I fiori piuttosto grandi, doppi e ben formati, assicurano un'eccezionale ricchezza di fioritura ed un notevole effetto di massa. Il rosa salmone iniziale si evolve in tonalità che tendono al corallo chiaro durante l'apertura dei fiori. La pianta è molto vigorosa e ramificata ma con vegetazione compatta e regolare; la rifiorenza continua per tutto il periodo vegetativo. Un fresco profumo impreziosisce questa varietà.
The rather large, double and well-formed flowers ensure an exceptional richness of flowering and a remarkable mass effect. The initial salmon pink evolves into shades that tend to light coral during the opening of the flowers. The plant is very vigorous and branched but with compact and regular vegetation; The re-flowering continues throughout the vegetative period. A fresh scent embellishes this variiety.
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23 NOV by
jedmar
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Reference added, thank you!
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Rose Listing Omission
Bambina
Bambina Barbamb (Barni 2022)
Catalogo Barni 2023-24
Minirose page 47
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In 1971 Norman Young hypothesized that ‘Variegata di Bologna’ was a sport of ‘Victor Emmanuel’ which was long popular in Italy. This guess was often repeated in the literature.
HelpMeFind member Ca Berta found the important 1909 reference which gave ‘Variegata di Bologna’s pollen parent as ‘Pride of Reigate. I am wondering if the rose on the left of this photo is not ‘Victor Emmanuel’, but either ‘Comtesse d’Oxford or its sport ‘Pride of Reigate’. Does David Ruston’s planting records book give the provenance of the rose on the left.
We have a chronological descendancy of
1859 Victor Verdier
1869 Comtesse d’Oxford HP. (seedling of Victor Verdier)
1880s Pride of Reigate (sport of Comtesse d’Oxford)
1909 Variegata di Bologna (seedling x Pride of Reigate)
1980 Purpurea di Bologna (sport of Variegata di Bologna. Or a reversion back to Pride of Reigate or Comtesse d’Oxford?)
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31 DEC 17 by
Cà Berta
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I do not know if it may help .. in the 1908 catalogue of Gaetano Bonfiglioli e figlio are listed both Comtesse of Oxford and Pride of Reigate but not Victor Emmanuel. Mr. Lodi, thus, had surely avaiilable Pride of Reigate for his hybridizations .. no prove he had Victor Emmanuel at hand.
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7 OCT 23 by
odinthor
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Thanks, this is a very valuable comment!
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