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RosePortlandia most recent 14 FEB 11 SHOW ALL

Initial post 31 JUL 07 by Tesseract

I'm in Zone 5; Great Lakes area. I reeceived two Portlandia climbers in May 2007, from company in Oregon. They were stressed upon arrival. Still (July 31) small and sickly: less than 18-inches high, yellow leaves and still losing over half of them. I have the own-root variety and will only go that route. Has anyone found such from other sources. I've seen sport (grafted) versions in retail nurseries, but I believe the own-root variety is still only available via Oregon. Received other varieties from same source (in May) and replacements (mid-June): all still very small and sickly. The problem is not my location or soil; other roses in same location, received from SC company, is doing super (four-feet high and healthy).

Reply #1 of 2 posted 12 FEB 11 by HMF supporting member

Torachan

I know it is 4 years later but Roses Unlimited carries some Clements roses .	REPLY

Reply #2 of 2 posted 14 FEB 11 by Unregistered Guest

Yuppers - the do. I found them (Roses Unlimited) a couple-years-ago. Very happy with the health, size, and longevity of the own-root roses they ship. I just bought five more climbers from them last spring (2 Harlekin, 1 Iceberg, 1 Don Juan, and 1 - oops - "mystery rose" that was supposed to be a Red Eden but ended up being a tea-type). They are all well over 6-feet tall in the FIRST YEAR (well, the iceberg is a bit smaller - about 4-feet tall -- and the "mystery rose" is so big at 9 feet, that I had to move it to another location in my yard in late October. All of them are continual bloomers in the locations that I have them. Granted, these are planted in the sunniest part of my yard. I moved the "mystery rose" to a more-shady area -- where the American was not doing well. I moved my American to where my - other - Red Eden was doing poorly - and I moved my Red Eden to the sunny location. Since the "mystery rose" is so hardy and growing like mad -- we'll see how it does next year in the new location.

RoseEden (Large Flowered Climber, Meilland, 1976/85) most recent 20 FEB 08 SHOW ALL

Initial post 6 SEP 07 by Tesseract

Just received the other Eden climber (own-root rose; not a sport). Received it from Roses Unlimited in SC (rosesunlimitedownroot.com). Every rose that I receive from them is in wonderful condition. They take extra care in packing and shipping. I just received the new Eden last week and it is happy. I received a Red Eden from the same company (Roses Unlimited) several months ago. It came healthy and happy too.

I'm Zone 5 (Great Lakes region). We get lots of blackspot here, but my roses are doing great as long as I take care of any trouble spots at least once-per-week. I'll report back next season and update how they are continuing.

Tesseract

Reply #1 of 2 posted 16 FEB 08 by blancablack

In February 2008, my thoughts are turning happily to roses that will return. Have to note that I planted this rose (ownroot from OR company) at my new home on Thanksgiving day in 2006. Not the best timing - too late even for NW Oregon but...it did ok. I had planted it in a temp spot. In May 2007 I moved it, the root ball broke apart in spite of my best effort. I was sure it was a gonner. It rewarded me with the most glorious season of flowers. What a fantastic display Eden puts on. It is now in a spot getting morning sun and a little afternoon but not the hottest. This winter, I worried about wind but...we shall see. I expect another season of fantasy with Eden.

One reason I don't buy from the NC co is that their shipping is simply outrageous to get product to the west coast. I can buy from central Canada sources more economically! NC co needs to charge what it actually costs to ship, not what they think they can gouge.
Also, buying locally supports jobs right here and saves on fuel as it becomes more scarce so I try to do that as much as possible. Perhaps the higher cost to ship farther away from NC is their way of saying the same thing. (:-)

Reply #2 of 2 posted 20 FEB 08 by Unregistered Guest

I did not notice much of a difference in shipping charges between the NC company and other companies. They may charge more for shipping, however, because they take the best care in packaging that I have ever experienced with all other rose companies. The roses are placed in oversized boxes that give them plenty of space. They are hand secured so that they are not jostled or damaged in transit. So, as far as my own personal experience goes, I am very pleased with the special and extra packaging care that is done by Roses Unlimited in NC. The result -- the roses come to me healthy, unstressed, and full of growth and vigor. Some were even in full bloom and happy upon arrival because they had room to breath even while in transit.

RoseThe Impressionist ™ (shrub, Clements 2000) most recent 12 FEB 08 SHOW ALL

Initial post 31 JUL 07 by Tesseract

I am in Zone 5 – Great Lakes area. Has anyone had luck with these outside of the West Coast (i.e., one-day shipping from Oregon)?
I received two own-root climbers in May 2007. They were sickly upon arrival: plants stressed; the leaves were wilted and yellow. I had the company send me a replacement for one of them in June. Still sickly and still only 12-to-18-inches high (and this is July 31)! Maybe it is the company?
Problems not limited to the two "The Impressionists" received. I had the same problems with all other varieties. "Eden" (one) still less than 12-inches high, and dying. "Portlandia" (two); and even the "hardy" New Dawns. I received all in stressed and sickly condition. Even after communicating such ot the company and had three replaced, received replacements in same (or even worse) condition: half the leaves yellow and wilted upon arrival, and still only 12-to-18-inches high!
It is not my soil or location either -- I prepared organic, very-rich soil for the flower bed (three-feet deep where the roses are planted). In addition, I received a "Red Eden" from another company, planted in the same location. It is healthy, happy, and growing very well (already four feet tall -- and I received it in mid-June: a month after the others from the first company). Unfortunately, the "Portlandia" and "The Impressionist" may only available from the first company.
Although it is late in the season (and still under the 90-day waranty from the first company) I ordered another "Eden" from the second company (to replace they sick and dying one that was sent from the first company). What a shame. If the two "The Impressionists" do not improve (which is unlikely, since it is already mid-summer), I will have to order different varities next season (from another company).

Reply #1 of 3 posted 19 AUG 07 by Unregistered Guest

I bought 2 Impressionist this year at the same time.They are healthy but small about 2 and a half feet.I transfered them into 15 gallon pots after I got them.They ve even had a few blooms.I wonder if the mail system took to long to deliver them.I remember when I got mine in the little boxes wrapped in paper.Its possible they had a rough shipping but this is the first time I bought from them so I dont know.Mine are doing well though.Its such a lovely rose I bet your just sick about it.

Reply #2 of 3 posted 8 FEB 08 by bob diller

In defense of the company of which you speak, I have ordered from them for years. Knowing they are on the opposite side of the country, I always pay for express shipping, or the plants can be up to 2 weeks in transit in horrible shipping conditions (i.e. hot trucks, ice cold cargo holds of planes and got knows what other conditions shipping companies dish out to their leafy passengers). These plants you are buying are own root band size plants. Its states this in their catalog and on their website. You get what you order. Also, I'm happy to have gotten many virus free roses from them. It is hard to get many antique roses that do not have rose virus. I'm happy to have gotten a healthy and robust Reve d'Or from them, as most in commerce are infected with rose mosaic virus, weather they show symptoms of it or not...sometimes the only symptom is lack of vigor. The company you ordered from has heat treated roses and grown virus free stock to use as mother plants to propagate from. I know of few other places that have taken the time and money to ensure you get healthy virus free plants. Just know when you order all the way across country, pay for express shipping, or you may as well not order at all because its not the nursery sending half dead plants, its the darn shipping companies doing it to them.

Reply #3 of 3 posted 12 FEB 08 by Unregistered Guest

Howdy BD,

Don't know what you meant by "you get what you paid for" -- hope you weren't calling me cheap. I was very clear with the company as to the condition of the roses that I expected and that I wanted to avoid "shipping shock". I asked the company for overnight shipping, which they said was not necessary -- quoting their years-of-experience. I had it shipped express (the express that they offered (2-day-shipping). In both scenarios, it was I who had to follow-up to monitor the situation. The first time, they shipped over a holiday-weekend and the roses WOULD have remained in storage for an additional two days if I had not been proactive enough to "force the shipping as paid" (they arrived on Saturday on the third day). The second time, I again had to monitor the shipping myself. Regardless, the conditiion of the roses was NOT only because of three-day shipping. So, I do INDEED have a right to comment as I did because I did NOT try the "cheap approach" of "getting what you pay for". I was very clear up-front about the condion expected and my willingness to pay for overnight shipping. This is even more true because I receive roses from other companies (e.g., Roses Unlimited in SC). There is, in fact, a real difference as to the condition of the roses sent and the packaging. Every rose that I received from Roses Unlimited were packed with great care, individually boxed, in larger boxes that gave pleanty of inside space so the roses were not stressed -- and WITHOUT disease. Granted, you and I had different experiences, but that does not automatically mean that I did something wrong and you did something right. It may just mean that the company is inconsistent in its packing and shipping process.

RoseEden (Large Flowered Climber, Meilland, 1976/85) most recent 7 SEP 07 SHOW ALL

Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Anonymous-797

Reply #1 of 4 posted 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest

Reply #2 of 4 posted 24 APR 05 by Kat Lee

There are many places that are cheaper than waysidegardens, and you can get an own root, instead of grafted. RosesUnlimited is a great place to order from. Muncys Rose Emporium has good prices. I've bought loads of plants off of eBay, and they've done really well. You could probably find this one for around $6 during planting season. however, I do suggest getting on WaysideGardens email list, bacause at the end of the season (end of May-ish?) They clearance alot of plants online, but only for 1 or 2 days. I bought Pat Austin $4.99, and Reine de Violettes, Winchester Cathedral, English Garden, Cl. America, AND Cl. Eden, all for $2.99 Each.

Reply #3 of 4 posted 6 SEP 07 by Tesseract

I know your inquiry is an older post (2003), but a great company for ordering roses (Eden included, but other roses too - either "own-root" or "sports") -- Roses Unlimited in SC (rosesunlimitedownroot.com). I have had only wonderful results from them. The roses received are packed very well, and they arrive in excellent condition and health, with no shipping stress. Tesseract - Sept 2007	REPLY

Reply #4 of 4 posted 7 SEP 07 by HMF supporting member

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