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RoseEroica most recent 6 JUL 13 SHOW ALL

Initial post 28 AUG 07 by Ananto

This is the only hybrid tea I grow, but it's surely one of the best. It's very healthy, vigorous and behaves well. It's a reliable rebloomer and a fine cut rose. the fragrance is absolutely fantastic. (Holland, rich soil, full sun, open garden)	REPLY

Reply #1 of 1 posted 6 JUL 13 by HonzaPM

Thank you for this helpful comment.	REPLY

RoseOfficinalis most recent 27 FEB 09 SHOW ALL

Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Anonymous-797

I am new to roses, but this one sounds appealing for it's fragrance. Does anyone know if it is winter hardy to zone 4b or 5? Also, how is it's disease susceptability?	REPLY

Reply #1 of 3 posted 23 APR 04 by floweringshrubfarm.com

Apothecary's Rose is dependably hardy to zone 4 (30 below 0 F.) At Azalea House we never spray it against disease. Like a Rugosa its leaves will sometimes show bronzing later in the season but its not unatractive nor does it exfoliate.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 3 posted 28 AUG 07 by Ananto

In my experience it has almost no fragrance. It is a strong ans reliable garden plant for sure, like most Gallica's. the colour is strinikg, if that's what you like, quite different from the other more purple Gallica's. not many of them have a good scent in my opinion. I haven't grown many, but President de Seize has the best fragrance as far as I know. (open garden, very rich soil, Holland)	REPLY

Reply #3 of 3 posted 27 FEB 09 by Blue Zinnia

Wow, no fragrance?? I wonder if that has to do with soil or climate where you are, because fragrance is what this rose is most famous for (that and its medicinal uses and its long, sometimes partisan history.) It's even one of the very few roses whose scent stays good after the petals are dried, which is why it's used so much in potpourri and tea, and for making rose beads.

Could you be over-fertilizing, I wonder?

RoseEnglish Garden ® most recent 20 DEC 08 SHOW ALL

Initial post 5 JUN 07 by Unregistered Guest

I recently saw this rose growing at a Vanderbilt Home in Centreport, NY. The flowers were lovely, well formed and delicately colored. I would like to know from those who have this rose what their experience has been with disease resistance / susceptibilty with regard to black spot, and pests.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 3 posted 28 AUG 07 by Ananto

Dear rose lover,

I have grown English Garden for several years now, moved it once, but I'm still not enthusiastic. It is said that this is an excellent garden plant, healthy and reliable. It gets blackspot anyway. I admit it looks good for bedding, but to me it's too thin (few leaves). It stays low (a little over 2 feet). I don't like the fact that it has only a little scent. It reblooms quite well, though. If you like this particualr colour, I'd go for Jayne Austin, which has a glorious scent and the same colour. Jayne has a little less filled flower and twice the hight, but makes a mucht better bush. Health is about the same.

Reply #2 of 3 posted 28 AUG 07 by Unregistered Guest

Thank you for sharing your experience with this rose. Since there are several on my "possibilities" list, I will focus on them. I appreciate your info about Jayne Austin and will look into that. Adding a new rose is a studied matter because the space I have is limited. This website is a treasure in that is helps us "out in the hinterlands" to share experiences and knowledge.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 3 posted 20 DEC 08 by Jeff Britt

I have had excellent results with English Garden. In my coastal California garden, where blackspot, rust and mildew are enough to make most gardeners simply give up on roses, English Garden has little trouble. It can show just a touch of powdery mildew if we have a very wet, foggy August, but I have not had any trouble with black spot and the plant seems immune to rust (which will defoliate plants like Abraham Darby).

My plant has grown to about 4' and flowers quite regularly. The flower color is somewhat variable, depending on the temperature, showing more pink when it's warmer, more yellow when it's cool. No matter the color, the flowers are always lovely and make excellent cut flowers.

RoseJacques Cartier most recent 28 OCT 07 SHOW ALL

Initial post 10 JAN 07 by HMF supporting member

Joseph Baiocchi

I am gardening in Central Texas:

This was the last of the varieties removed from our garden 2007- after three seasons. I think that in a hot evnironment, this one might do better in the shade. The first season it was potted, and I had it under a small oak. It rebloomed frequently with blooms that were smaller, but representative of this variety. The fragrance was good - but not great. Once I moved it into the main bed in full sun the story changed. In the spring, it still was vigorous and produced many flowers, but they mostly had vegative centers. Somtimes the flower would just stay green and never fully mature. In the summer the black spot set in with a vengance. Occasionally you would get a superb bloom, but it really was not worth the trouble.

Obviously this rose works well somewhere, or it would not still be around. I don't think it gets along well in this climate however. Of course, there is always the very tenable explanation that I was doing something wrong :=)

Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 AUG 07 by Ananto

I don't have your Texan summers, but I also find the fragrance only mild. Mine has a somewhat shady spot. It never blooms very richly, like my Comte the Chambord in full sun. The flowers are beautiful though, very delicate pink, which I love. My problem is the much too dense growth which makes pruning a bit hopeless task. (How much do I have to take out?) Talking about Portland Roses: I experience this also with Rose de Resht. Comte de Chambord is better in this respect.
(Holland, very rich soil)

Reply #2 of 2 posted 28 OCT 07 by HMF supporting member

Joseph Baiocchi

My Rose De Rescht does get quite thick, but does not take up as much space as it is not as tall and is rather more upright in habit. I my yard, black spot is nightmare on RDR as well. Ususally I cut it back to the ground in late summer and it come back like a weed.

You may wonder why I cut it back in late summer - or why I don't just pull it out. Surprisingly, it has proven to be a good seed parent. It sets hips pretty easily, though you don't get very many seeds in each hip. Germination on those you do get has been very good for me. I wait till the hips are ready. By that time the spot has pretty much ruined the bush - so I just wack it back.

Given the problems with spot, I don't use it much - but a plant that produces viable seed is alway welcome in my yard. I may eventually kill the bush this way (though I shows no sign of slowing down) - so I take cuttings each year to hedge my bets.