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steve fritz
most recent 18 NOV HIDE POSTS
Initial post 18 NOV by steve fritz
Nice large flower, well scented. Did get blackspot in my Eastern North Carolina garden.

Every single rose that I viewed that was listed on the NIRP website, including this one, was given a maximum score for disease resistance. Obviously, this is not the case.

It puts the credibility of their information into question.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 18 NOV by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Great info Steve. Thank you!
most recent 13 SEP SHOW ALL
Initial post 15 JUL 22 by steve fritz
I've owned this rose for a few years.

It is virtually disease free and fertile as both a pollen and seed parent.

It has rather small and sparse blooms for the large size of the plant. And I detect no fragrance.

It grows in a rather awkward angular form, about 7 feet tall and 5 feet wide.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 17 AUG 22 by RoseAddict_NorthTX
I agree with you, I have the same experience. She is a thorny monster, very irregular and ungainly, grows in all directions. I can’t detect much of a scent (she’s supposed to be of the Parfuma series). But she keeps blooming in our 100F weather (North Texas) like no other. The blooms are not huge but she keeps going. I may need to replant her somewhere else because she is just getting too big even though I prune her severely.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 19 AUG 22 by MADActuary
I will add to this by pointing out that in my Zone 5b (Chicagoland) garden the bloom petals burn so easily. I am having trouble seeing the redeeming qualities of this rose. It's growing well and yes, awkwardly, and blooming well. Only a mild fragrance for me thus far. But Dark Desire's blooms may be the most unattractive of all my 200 bushes. I should shovel prune it as it's occupying valuable garden real estate in a prime location but I'll give it until next summer to see if it improves.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 20 AUG 22 by Plazbo
It's curious the lack of smell. I've smelt it as a few nurseries (I've never bought it) and it's always smelt strongly of potpourri with kind of dusty/soapy tones.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 13 SEP by Jay-Jay
Where it grows in Winschoten (Rosarium) it produces lots of flowers flowers, that are rather large and have a strong pleasant scent... But some of the flowers were almost scentless!!!
most recent 1 APR 23 SHOW ALL
Initial post 27 APR 19 by Patricia Routley
Steve, we have several Elizabeths. Would you ask SEARCH for Elizabeth and take a look at the Cant, Letts, Cocker and Thomson examples to see how your rose should be listed.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 1 APR 23 by steve fritz
How do I delete a rose listing? I accidentally added F-09-133 twice.

I wish to delete the entry that has no pictures.

Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 APR 23 by Patricia Routley
We’ve done it for you Steve. Just check the current page is now okay.
most recent 18 DEC 22 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 18 DEC 22 by steve fritz
Some fragrance, strongest in fall. Not much the rest of the year in my zone 8 eastern North Carolina garden.

Will get blackspot. Fertile as a pollen parent.
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