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Initial post 14 DEC 08 by Cass
I recall reading that this form is suspected of being the result of a viral infection. If anyone has any information or references that confirms or denies this suspicion, I would appreciate hearing from you.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 MAY 10 by anonymous-360395
Hi Cass

In my opinion this phenotype is probably just virus induced.
Tens of years ago I saw this distortion along a row of a botanical collection at Frejus, french Riviera. Clearly starting from watsoniana, up and down the row all plants were with very narrow distorted foliage, often much more than watsoniana. I remember laevigata had very distorted narrow quite freaky foliage.. All collection was burnt.
Proving virus induction shouldn't be so difficult. Contamination was from insects, nematodes or more likely from pruning tools. Root grafts are less likely as these plants origin were diverse?
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Initial post 21 FEB 10 by Kathy Strong
However, there is an Australian patent application for MEIzuzes (dated Oct. 2002) at http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/pdfs/plantbreed/PVJ_Vol_154.pdf (see page 57). That patent application describes a hybrid tea with a dark pink upper (RHS colour N57) and brilliant yellow reverse (RHS colours 13A and 13B), medium fragrance, blooming mostly as single flowers (not clusters), an average size of 11.423 cm (4.5 inches) and most similar to the rose in commerce known as ‘MEIgriso,’ i.e., Baronne Edmond de Rothschild. That description is also very similar to what Meilland's website shows as a picture for that rose. And the Australian patent application for MEIzuzes says that rose was granted a patent in the EU in 1997. The Australian patent application also gives the parentage of MEIzuzes as seed parent (‘MEIrigalu’ x ‘MACar’) x pollen parent ‘MEIpobil’. That would be (Colorama x Piccadilly) x Rendez-Vous.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 22 FEB 10 by jedmar
We have separated MEIzuzes from MEIruchka. Please check if appropriate. Thank you again for your detailed research on this subject!
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 25 FEB 10 by anonymous-360395
Just another case of a breeder using a single name for two different roses: one a garden rose and the other a florist's.
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most recent 19 FEB 10 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 FEB 10 by AnneU
D’après le livre, Les Roses, de S. Millard Gault, ed Vie Pratique/Jardinage, publié en 1981, ‘Bébé Lune’ est un rosier à massifs de 60cm de haut, vigoureux et florifère, fleurs jaunes, agréablement parfumées, ne s’altérant pas aux intempéries et au soleil. Végétation bien compacte. Rosier pour bouquet. Auteur et date non spécifiés.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 18 FEB 10 by jedmar
Merci bien!
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 19 FEB 10 by anonymous-360395
Bebe Lune Fl Delbard 1963 from rememberings and Botanical Rose Garden Carla Fineschi: Taxonomic Catalogue
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 19 FEB 10 by jedmar
Indeed. Thank you again!
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