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most recent 11 DEC 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 5 FEB 12 by Tammy-EastTN-6a
Can that zone be correct? 4a-5b...
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 5 FEB 12 by HMF Admin
Not very likely...
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 23 DEC 14 by Madame Hardy
Centifolia and Moss roses reliably grow in Zone 4a. The local University Extension service often posts specific details about hardy roses for an area.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 11 DEC 17 by AquaEyes
I'm adding to this very late, but I think it's important anyway. Personally, I'm not a fan of maintaining the Moss class, since it is defined by just one trait -- moss -- which can be transmitted to offspring from breeding with other classes. If I had my way, "moss" would be just a descriptive trait, and the roses currently classed as Moss Roses would be moved into classes which better describe their other characteristics. Some Mosses are clearly Centifolias with moss, others like 'Salet' and 'Mousseline' are better described as Portlands or Damask Perpetuals with moss, 'Princesse Adelaide' and a couple others are (Hybrid) Bourbons with moss, and 'Mme Louis Leveque' is really a Hybrid Perpetual with moss. Ralph Moore bred the moss trait into miniatures and others.

The question and response in this thread illustrate how lumping together very different roses into a Moss class -- simply because they have moss -- isn't really helpful anymore. The original question was about cold-hardiness of this particular rose, 'Mme Louis Leveque'. An answer referenced cold-hardiness of Centifolias and Mosses -- but the "Mosses" referenced are really "mossy Centifolias", and not Mosses in general. To give gardeners a better idea of how cold-hardy an individual Moss rose would be, we should look deeper. Cold-hardiness of 'Mme Louis Leveque' would be based more on its Hybrid Perpetual lineage than that it shares one trait -- moss -- with a more cold-hardy 'Centifolia Muscosa'. A more dramatic example would be assuming one of Ralph Moore's mossy Miniatures would be as cold-hardy as 'Centifolia Muscosa' because both are classed as Mosses, based on sharing but one trait.

:-)
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 11 DEC 17 by Andrew from Dolton
Moore used 'Centifolia Cristata' for many of his mossy miniatures, the crested ones, it isn't really strictly speaking a moss rose at all.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 11 DEC 17 by AquaEyes
Yes, for his crested hybrids. But his mossy hybrids were derived from 'William Lobb', and possibly some others.

:-)
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most recent 8 JUL 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 28 JUL 15 by Madame Hardy
Rose Listing Omission

'Summer Waltz', Rosa 66

A Minnesota Arboretum pink rose cultivar, previously known as "Rosa 66," its genus name, was announced May 11, 2012 and is now named "Summer Waltz."
The rose features a scalloped, double-petal bloom, is Northern-hardy and resistant to black-spot disease.
Rosa 66 was introduced through the University of Minnesota Woody Landscape Plant Breeding Program.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 JUL 15 by Patricia Routley
Thank you. Added. Any idea of class?
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 8 JUL 16 by Madame Hardy
It is a 'shrub rose'. It is winter hardy and is repeat blooming.

Thank you
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Reply #1 of 0 posted 31 JAN 10 by jedmar
Thank you!
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