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My planting took a few years to take off but it has become a substantial shrub after 3 seasons. Our summers in NC are hot and humid so blackspot is sometimes an issue. WS 2000 just shrugs it off. With prevention, I've noticed a major decrease in any fungal issues. The listing describes a 4ft growth habit but mine has put out an 8ft cane that I cut back to 6ft with good results. Several new canes have shot up off the roots this spring. The fragrance on this guy is powerful and rich.
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I know it's been a while since this post, but I'm in NC as well and wanted to purchase this rose. Does it still regularly put out the long octopus canes for you? I have a spot where that might be useful in my garden.
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What are your BS prevention tactics?
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I know I've already commented on this rose but I have to again. This thing is ridiculously vigorous. The attached photo shows GFT in the middle left of the bed. He's about 4-5 feet tall. 2 new massive canes are sprouting this week (04.06.2012, 7b). I'll definitely load up some photos when he blooms. I could not recommend this rose more strongly.
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6 SEP 17 by
jeffbee
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wow, i envy you, so many flower heads！
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I agree. Even here in Phoenix it's one of the most vigorous roses that I planted last spring (another one is Zulu Royal). First summer I thought I lost it. But fall brought a surprise and the rose started growing to my delight. Spring showed really what this rose is up to. Now it's tall and well branched. And still tries to bloom! I didn't cut flowers for vase that often, so can't attest how long they last. Nice fragrance. Looks like it is happy here in Phoenix area with amended high alkaline soil, dry extreme heat, sun until around 3pm during summer, own root. Can't wait to see what next spring will bring.
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I have completely fallen in love with this rose. It is fairly vigorous, healthy and sporting 10+ buds in its first full season in the garden. The aroma is intoxicating, strong old rose.
I also have this rose planted right next to Mme. Isaac Pereire. The two are extremely similar, almost identical with only very slight differences. The color and bloom form are a perfect match. However, there are slight differences in the foliage and fragrance.
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I just planted MIP for the fragrance and am hoping the color will be more violet. Is your SdPL still the same color or crimson red as described in other posts? Looking for purple tones with the strongest fragrance possible. Thanks in advance for any comments!
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I have Souvenir du President Lincoln and Madame Isaac P. next to each other. S. Lincoln needs more sun to bloom, but healthier. Madame Issac P. has stronger scent. My S. Lincoln is medium-pink in my alkaline clay (no horse manure).
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Do you prefer MIP's scent more? I'm glad to hear that SDPL can look more pink than red!
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Yes, MIP scent is much stronger. I would rate S.d.P as medium scent. Sonia Rykiel can match MIP's scent, and Sonia Rykiel can give 4 flushes, versus only spring-flush for MIP.
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Is this the same variety as Morgan's Spring ?
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Hi. I had not heard of Morgan's Spring until I saw this post. I don't see that HMF has a listing for it either although I did see the rose offered from a couple of online nurseries. I grow Natchitoches Noisette and it's one of my favorite roses. It is a found rose, reportedly from an old cemetery in Natchitoches Louisiana. Is there any history as to Morgan's Spring's origins?
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Pam Greenewald of Angel Gardens advises us:
"I received my Mother plant years ago when I first started growing (over 10 years ago) from a local nursery. I know it is a "found" rose and after growing both for many years, there is no question in my mind that it is the exact same rose as Natchitoches Noisette. Hope that helps."
It certainly does. Thanks Pam and drogers. We'll add it as a synonym.
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Thank you so much, Patricia, Pam and DRogers!! I have grown NN for 3 years and it is also one of my favorites (Tacoma, WA, Zone 8b). Yesterday I received Morgan's Spring from Pam and was anxious to post it and read about it but couldn't find it. Thank you all for clearing up the mystery. Always fun to grow found roses that come from different sources. My NN was from Gregg Lowery. Patricia, you're very efficient and so quick to respond!!
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