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I see helpmefind has LFR as a zone 6b, yet I have seen it listed as zone 5. Does anyone have any clarification on this?
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25 JUN 20 by
JoeyT
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I recently bought one and I live in zone 4. Planning to overwinter in a pot in the garage. Some of us just like to zone push and see what we can get away with I guess.
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31 AUG 22 by
JoeyT
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Updating just for the record that my LFR is still alive. Not thriving, because it's been through some pretty awful treatment as regards neighbor dogs, but still growing in zone 4.
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I was looking for Paul’s Himalayan Musk Rose. Is this the same rose? There is information about it here:
https://www.gardenia.net/plant/rose-pauls-himalayan-musk
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3 JUL 19 by
 jedmar
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No, you need to look for Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler.
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It does not seem possible that this is a zone 6b. It is listed as very hardy and was bred at the Swedish Agricultural University. Is it really 6b?
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Probably not. Ulrika Carlsson-Nilsson's other three roses are listed as 2b through to 8b ('Irma'), 3b and 4b. As they all used the same pollen parent of 'L83', I would imagine they should all be listed with the same zone. However, my weakness is zones - I just don't know 'em. Can someone confirm that they should all be listed ....3b and warmer?
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If I could get my hands on one, I would be happy to test it in nominal zone 5a... which seems to become 4 if we do not have much snow cover!
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They grow, according to the Gardens tab, in Rosenlunds Rosarium, a public gardens in Jönköping, Sweden. This appears to be in zone 6b, assuming that the European zones correspond to US zones. I am very surprised to find that Sweden tends to have warmer zones than does Maine, where I live. Of course, this does not tell use whether the rose will only grow in this zone. The Swedish Agricultural University seems to have major branches in Alnarp (close to Malmo which is 8a), Skara (7a?), Umeå (5b) and Uppsala (7a).
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This rose, 'Balder', is very hardy and can be grown in the very North parts of Sweden.
This means zone 6 = Swedish zones!
I don't know what that is in US zones, sorry
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Thank you Elizabeth and Christina. Nilssen's four roses changed to 6b and warmer.
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According to a new rose testing project in Sweden (http://www.rosensdag.se/) all of Nilsson's roses are consired reliably hardy in swedish zone 5, encompassing localities which range from Usda Zone 4a - 7a. They also make bushes so it means that they are cane hardy in those zones. Balder is/was rated since before to swedish zone 6 according to Nilsson and is considered the hardiest of them, testing occurred during the 90's. I don't have info on the testing locality in swedish zone 6 from the 90's nor could I find any, therefore the Usda Zone for this particular swedish zone 6 growing locality cannot be confirmed.
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I was just perusing roses and realized that the Yellow Fairy was developed by the Olesen's of Denmark and yet the notes say it is hardy in zone 6B and up. I cannot imagine that much of Denmark is in 6B and I thought they developed roses for climates such as that of Denmark! Can this 6B be correct?
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6B sounds conceivable, considering its from wichurana/multiflora types and a garden miniature. I would doubt anything lower than 6A, however, without testing it for at least 2 winters. One of the photos on here is from Sweden, which is pretty dang cold. For comparison, Flower Carpet Pink is conceptually similar in lineage to Yellow Fairy.
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