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most recent 4 FEB 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 FEB 23 by Rosenschule Ruf
Sometimes there is alot of confusion because some nurserys in Germany use the wrong synonyms for some of the seven dwarfs, even we do so because to correct it would cause even more confusion for the other German nurserys.
here a complete list of all seven taken from the book modern roses 8:
GERMAN NAME / ENGLISH NAME / COLOUR / WRONG GERMAN NAME (RUF)
Alberich / Happy / currant red / Eberwein
Degenhard /Doc / phlox pink,semidouble /Bertram
Burkhard /Grumpy /pink,small,long truss / Degenhardt
Eberwein /Dopey /crimson-red, truss /Alberich
Bertram /Sneezy /neyron-rose,single /Burkhard
Giesebrecht /Bashfull / reddish pink,white eye,single /Giesebrecht
Balduin /Sleepy /rhodamine pink, very small /Balduin
according to this on your Photo is doc and Sleepy changed...
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most recent 4 FEB 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 FEB 23 by Rosenschule Ruf
Sometimes there is alot of confusion because some nurserys in Germany use the wrong synonyms for some of the seven dwarfs, even we do so because to correct it would cause even more confusion for the other German nurserys.
here a complete list of all seven taken from the book modern roses 8:
GERMAN NAME / ENGLISH NAME / COLOUR / WRONG GERMAN NAME (RUF)
Alberich / Happy / currant red / Eberwein
Degenhard /Doc / phlox pink,semidouble /Bertram
Burkhard /Grumpy /pink,small,long truss / Degenhardt
Eberwein /Dopey /crimson-red, truss /Alberich
Bertram /Sneezy /neyron-rose,single /Burkhard
Giesebrecht /Bashfull / reddish pink,white eye,single /Giesebrecht
Balduin /Sleepy /rhodamine pink, very small /Balduin
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most recent 4 FEB 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 FEB 23 by Rosenschule Ruf
This Photo shows Giesebrecht
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most recent 31 JAN 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 JAN 23 by Rosenschule Ruf
definitly a gallica, but not francofurtana
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 29 JAN 23 by jedmar
Do you mean that this rose is mislabeled at Sangerhausen? Please compare with the other photos from this rosarium. It is the same rose.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 30 JAN 23 by Rosenschule Ruf
Hello,
seems that i am not correct: for me the Rosa gallica splendens is synonym for francofurtana. If this is not correct so one thing is, that al the Fotos like that from Waldgarten an mine are wrong here. But in that case the name 'francofurtana Kreiselrose' is not correct here als a synonym for francofurtana....
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 31 JAN 23 by jedmar
The synonym Francofurtana Kreiselrose is from the 1838 Nickels and 1833 Keller catalogues. There seems to be a differentiation between the "ordinary" Kreiselrose" (i.e. turbinata) and the 'Dornenlose Kreiselrose'.
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