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Wow, seems to be dead ringer. Wouldn't it be nice to know we have this one back?
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Good sleuthing, Patricia!
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Was a guess - a hint only for John to consider 'Ophirie'.
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I did consider this early on but I ended up rejecting the idea as too many characteristics were different. I have another foundling from the Ariege that does match the descriptions but is virtually free of prickles so I'm not sure
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#5 of 8 posted
3 APR 19 by
AmiRoses
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And what about Nisida or Mondor ?
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....or ‘Louis Leveque’?
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#7 of 8 posted
6 JUN 21 by
kai-eric
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...looks alike rosette delizy - bristly pedicels, same foliage, same few prickles. i have them some 5 meters apart. never wondered about similarities but right now they are blooming simultaneously and it is so obvious that they are the one and only thing!
after having compared madiran climber and 'souvenir d'un ami'/loubert(france) which is thought to be rosette delizy, i'm pretty convinced that both are the same variety.
the first set of pictures is showing madiran climber.
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#8 of 8 posted
6 AUG 21 by
kai-eric
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the second one gives an impression of 'souvenir d'un ami' ex loubert(france). the blossom in the pictures carried 6 sepals but blossoms with 5 sepals are the rule.
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#9 of 8 posted
7 AUG 21 by
kai-eric
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the two of them side by side
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rosa serratipetala is not available au Pépiènières Loubert
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#1 of 3 posted
23 NOV 20 by
AmiRoses
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it is under Fimbriata name.
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Bonjour,
La 'Fimbriata' chez Loubert est presque entièrement blanche, ce n'est donc pas la 'Serratipatala' de Prévost qui est "rose foncé vif". Cette dernière parait bien plus proche de celle attribuée à Jacques (1827) qui est un chinensis presque sans aiguillons, ce qui n'est pas du tout le cas de la rose de Prévost.
Je pense que la rose de Prévost n'existe plus hélas !
Cordialement,
Daniel
NB 'Serratipetala' de Prévost (avec un accent) n'est pas de 1818 mais de 1828
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#3 of 3 posted
24 NOV 20 by
jedmar
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Agree. Loubert's 'Serratipetala' is the same which is in commerce also as 'Oeillet de Saint-Arquey' or 'Fimbriata', and not Prévosts's 'Serratipetala'. We have moved the nursery listings to "Serratipetala (in commerce)"
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29 JAN 20 by
jedmar
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Mislabeled at L'Haÿ. Should be violet-red
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#1 of 1 posted
30 JAN 20 by
AmiRoses
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Yes, That is Château de la Juvénie
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Thanks for putting this up Etienne!
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#1 of 4 posted
4 DEC 19 by
AmiRoses
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You're welcome John, I hope to get one someday!
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I've got a start saved for you
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#3 of 4 posted
3 JAN 20 by
AmiRoses
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Wow, thank you John !
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#4 of 4 posted
3 JAN 20 by
Jay-Jay
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Wonderful rose, John!
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