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Initial post 23 JUN 15 by pvaldes
Not very disease resistent for me, just fine. Always a little chlorotic, some mildew, a little blackspot... (not rust at all, this is true), but this rose is a real beauty.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 JUL 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
As updated this July 2018, W.S. 2000 survived EIGHT zone 5a winters as OWN-ROOT, and is among my top 10 roses (out of 110 own-root-varieties). It's healthy only after I made the soil loamy, and blooms well with tons of acidic rain. Flowers are best in partial shade & few hours of morning sun. Japanese beetles don't care for its tightly packed petals and its old rose scent.
most recent 26 JAN 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 26 JAN 16 by pvaldes
It have a fair amount of big thorns, well spaced. Is not horrid like a moss at least but I would not tag this rose as thornless.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 26 JAN 16 by Patricia Routley
I wouldn't either. Thanks pvaldes. We've noted that it is thorny.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 26 JAN 16 by Jay-Jay
Definitely prickly and from the bottom up to the top!
most recent 14 OCT 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 14 OCT 15 by pvaldes
A full double rose that is also really flat, like chopped with a knife. The color starts as a rich and saturated crimson tone, but can fade to purple in clay and finally expose a green excavated central circle. It looks huge in photos, but is not much bigger than the other Gallica (All this group have relatively small roses).

The shrub is disease-free and undemanding as long as is correctly grafted and can not run wild. A real beauty in all stages of the life of the flower. I love it.
most recent 2 JUN 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 31 MAY 15 by pvaldes
The good:. The nicest of greens in foliage, 3-6 elegant buds by stem with plenty of 'top quality' cedar wood fragance, and an extra bonus of resin in older leaves also. A nice surprise.

The shrub not pruned is tall, leggy and lax growing quickly 180-200cm stems, and puts a nice display of white patches here and there so is perfect to mix and put in the back of the border. And of course this moss rose laugh about terms like blackspot, mildew or rust because moss roses are ultra-cool bad asses.

The bad:
Zillions of spines big and small (looks great in winter). Moss spine roses are 'horrid' but surprisingly not so troublesome as you could think. They are so dense that your skin just 'slip' most of the times, can not be in the right place to be viciously pierced. They are more scratchers than butchers. I have mine in a border and is not a real nuisance to pass. This rose can sting badly of course but it needs your cooperation to do so. Is not a traitor that takes you by surprise with a few hidden lethal hooks. Spines are mostly straight and this avoids a lot of human blood.

The ugly: The flower.
Yup, The flower is a little dissapointing to me, not very remarcable by itself. Small (about 5 cm), not particularly elegant, and petals turns brown and stick in the shrub (probably its main sin). The calix turns brown also. Not fruits, nor seeds. Dozens of flowers by shrub at least if pruned correctly.

So... not my favourite moss, but improving with time... perfect for lazy gardeners that want to add splashes of white and character in not much accesible places, and good also for winter interest and healthy foliage in natural hedges. Its moss fragance is as good as you could dream.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 2 JUN 15 by Patricia Routley
I could identify this rose by your description alone and agree with every word. Visitors here are always asked to smell the rose and then their fingertips after they feel the moss. Two perfumes from the one rose always impresses.
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