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This rose was recently awarded an AGM from the RHS - UK only.
2021–2024
Although the trial focused on red-flowered roses, the pink-flowered Rosa CHARISMA (‘Noa16071’) AGM was recommended for an AGM due to its exceptional performance. It stood out with its fragrant blooms, red buds that fade gracefully with age, profuse flowering in clusters, and consistent, well-shaped plants with striking red-tinted, grey-green foliage.
rhs.org.uk red rose trial [sorry but I cannot post the link as it doesn't work here for some reason]
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#1 of 3 posted
17 JAN by
 jedmar
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THS seems to have removed the document on the Red rose trial
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I'll try post this link again..
www.rhs.org.uk/plants/trials-awards/plant-trial-results/red-roses
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#3 of 3 posted
18 JAN by
jedmar
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Thank you, worked out this time!
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This rose has a strong scent, and colour, when opening, varying from myrrh to tea later..
My rose is disease free so far [late June], but I have heard reports of mildew affecting the rose in some gardens here in England, this early summer..
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Powdery mildew is hard to judge. Sometimes a rose is truly prone to it, and sometimes its the case of a rose that requires extra water and a more extensive root system in place. I have seen many roses mature out of powdery, and some that will have it in the best of conditions after 5 years of maturation.
This rose is new, and while I have not seen it get powdery, it does look like a water intensive rose. We'll know in a few years which scenario is truly the case. Hopefully its just one that needs to have a more mature root system.
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No mildew for me but some early blackspot. 3rd year much better repeat, 2nd flush starting as soon as the first is over.
Obelisk supported, 5-6 feet, East Anglia, England..
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Do you cut it 6-12" above ground or let it be? I truly don't want to move mine for those dimensions.
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I let it be, just deadheading and light pruning to shape... it's never been pruned down at all.. here in UK it would be easy enough to keep more shrublike.
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Ah, thank you. Yeah, I plan to keep it shorter.
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Anyone knows if this rose makes better cut flowers than Golden Celebration (lasts 3 days in the vase for me). How is the scent of this rose compared to myrrh in Carding Mill? Carding Mill does not last long in vase, and I'm looking for ANY yellow or apricot roses that last long in the vase with decent scent. Thank you.
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Sorry, mine had a slow start, but eventually did take off, so mostly only August blooms. The fragrance and color were quite good, and they did last reasonably well for August, but I didn't try cutting them. Remind me next year.
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Michael: Thank you !! I appreciate all the great info. you provided to HMF. Agree with you that yellow roses require more water. I once had a Sutter's Gold own root rose that refused to bloom in a fabric Smart pot. Lesson learned: soil stays wetter in a plastic container. Or Arthur Bell (yellow) own root broke out in blackspots since I didn't like it and neglected watering in hot summer.
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Yes, be careful with cloth pots, as well as using a table where the bottom of a grow bench is outdoors and has nothing but metal/plastic frame mostly made of air space. Either of these will air-wick your plants into misery.
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Pouvez-vous me dire s'il vous plaît, cette rose a-t-elle un parfum ?
Merci..
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#1 of 5 posted
28 FEB 24 by
jedmar
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Pas de parfum. No fragrance according to the patent description.
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Thank you .. I was hoping for just a little..
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#3 of 5 posted
22 MAR by
Ericchn
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According to the website of Meilland Richardier, the flower has a slight fragrance. I’ll check it out when mine flowers this year.
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#5 of 5 posted
14 SEP by
Ericchn
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Its flower does have a little fragrance (to my nose), just like Eden rose.
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#4 of 5 posted
22 MAR by
Ericchn
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As far as I know, when Meilland fill the patent form, anything less than an obvious fragrance is “no fragrance”, there’s no such thing as “light fragrance”.
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This is one superlative, strongly fragrant old Hybrid Tea. It would not surprise me if it was found that the famous 'Mme. Isaac Pereire' was a parent, or 'Tom Wood'?.. the scent is very similar at its best, and the rich pink fully double blooms have that look about them..
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#1 of 2 posted
5 SEP by
HubertG
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Marlorena, you could be right about 'Tom Wood' being a parent, or at least some similar H.P..
I just came across a reference written by Dr. O'Donel Browne about his namesake rose and (although he doesn't disclose the varieties) he says that he knows that it is a cross between a Hybrid Perpetual and a "pure Tea". He also agrees with you that the perfume is superlative.
I wish we had this one in Australia; I'd probably grow it for the perfume alone.
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Oh that's really interesting to me Hubert, thank you.. I wonder what the 'pure Tea' was.. I wouldn't have guessed that.
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