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The Camp David listing doesn't show sizes.
From what I have gleaned, it will grow to 120 mm height and to 100 mm in width.
Mine is about 100-110 tall, so this might be a true-ish accurate 'guesstimate'
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4 APR 20 by
 jedmar
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Thank you, added. We are also missing info on the bloom size.
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4 APR 20 by
Geoffrey
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Watch this space :)
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It is a classic red rose, excellent cut flower on long straight stems. Very fragrant
(taken from Ross Roses description)
The Repat Hospital is in Adelaide.
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Thank you Geoffrey. We’ve added those details. I don’t suppose they listed the code, did they? We have no idea who bred it.
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7 JAN 20 by
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No, they didn't. I will contact Anrew Ross ans see if he can advise the code & breeder..
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Geoffrey, I couldn’t sleep last night so got up to do some work. I accidently pressed DELETE, instead of REPLY to your subsequent reply on what Andrew said. (The dear man is not really the master of record keeping is he). If you have a copy of your comment, that would be great. Otherwise, the essence of it was that Andrew chucked in a few seeds from unknown red roses to see what would come up. So while parentage is unknown, I guess the breeder would be Andrew Ross, before 2000. My apologies - and thank you for your help.
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9 JAN 20 by
Geoffrey
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This rose is not available as host plant/s are no longer.
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Thank you Geoffrey. We’ve marked it lost.
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This rose appears to have been 'pulled' in Australia by David Austin Roses UK, and is no longer available through retail nurseries here.
I have to wonder at the perceived power of an international grower to (a) allow only a select few roses onto the market instead of going through the usual trial process, and (b) telling retail growers what they will sell and what they won't. Seems a bit too cheeky when they don't live here.
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The DA Co. has been doing this kind of thing for decades in North America. Some very hard-nosed business practices have alienated some of their customer base. Many of us gardeners won't buy their new releases and some are aggressively seeking out "superseded" varieties.
The main complaint has been that DA Co. won't authorize a nursery to grow their newest, patented varieties unless that nursery agrees not to sell older, off patent varieties. That is part of a growing trend in many fields to include in contracts matters which are in fact no business of the contracting parties.
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18 JAN 19 by
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I am not a grower nor retailer, but have purchased some hundreds of roses over the last five years or so, all of which are doing rather well :)
But I am going to throw a gauntlet down before all those who are apparently beholden to DAUK.
Why are you so enthralled by the self-appointed kings of roses? Aren't there other suppliers of roses that are just as good if not better than the standard DA 'English Rose' which has become rather boring with its repetition? Once you have seen a DA English rose, they all now look the same.
So, you suppliers of roses to we the retail public, to whom do you owe you fealty to? DA Jnr or your customers?
Just asking.
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