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mballen
most recent 9 NOV SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 10 FEB 19 by flodur
This rose is not bred by Rolf Sievers, but by Dr. Dzidra Alfredovna Rieksta, Lettland as 'Ritausma'. The rose was imported by Gustav Strobel in the 1960s on unclarified paths from the Botanical Garden Leningrad / St. Petersburg to Western Europe. Since licensing rights of products of the then USSR were unclear, it was given the name 'Kamchatka' at the reintroduction in 1988 by Ingwer Jensen, who received it via Rolf Sievers, with the remark 'introduced by Rolf Sievers / Ingwer Jensen'. In 1991, BKN Strobel and 2004 Meilland introduced them under the provisional name 'Polaris'. Through direct comparisons of the rose expert Suzanne Verrier, this rose could be given its correct name again. Rolf Sievers has confirmed this true identity and the story to me.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 11 FEB 19 by flodur
That is the problem with stolen roses! Sorry for my typing error, Strobel used the name 'Kamtschatka' (not 'Kamchatka'. And not to be confused with 'Kamchatka Rose' = 'Kamtchatica').
If you put it together with 'Ritausma', Rieksta 1963 = 'Polar Ice', 'Polareis', 'Polarisx', introduced in Germany 1988 as 'Kamtschatka' by Ingwer Jensen - that would be correct. Have a nice day!
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 11 FEB 19 by Patricia Routley
Done. It all looks OK.
But I am now going to share a Note we have had in the file since 2006:
Ritausma vs Polareis. This must be 2 different roses. Here in Norway we are growing this roses. Ritausma been taller and have more slender canes. Polareis has less count of petals and have less pink flowers. The leaves on Ritausma have more slender form. The Polareis roses we have come from BKN Strobel, Germany and the Ritausma roses from Knud Pedersen, Denmark.
Best regards Roger Jaksland, Professional adviser for the Norwegian Rose Society
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 12 FEB 19 by flodur
I talked to Rolf Sievers: The only explanation he has, Gustav Strobel received two variations of 'Ritausma' from Leningrad (One was introduced by Rieksta as 'Ritausma', the other came into trade by these special ways, never authorized by Rieksta). We cannot ask Strobel anymore. I passed the question to Erling Østergard, who has the world largest collection of Rugosas.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 13 FEB 19 by flodur
Erling Østergard, Denmark has Ritausma from Knud Pedersen, Polareis from Sangerhausen and Kamtschatka from a nursery in France. All three are the same rose, no differences at all. It could be that the Norwegian roses differ in the stock used - that may have influence on the budded rose.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 13 FEB 19 by Patricia Routley
Thank you for your trouble flodur. Appreciated.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 8 AUG by mballen
Speaking of origins, Google translate tells me that the word "Ritausma" means "Dawn" in Latvian, suggesting a Latvian connection. Whatever the origin, it is a glorious rose. I planted one in my cousin's garden in Springs, Long Island, where it has grown into a tree-like shrub and is the Diva of her spring garden.
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Reply #8 of 7 posted 9 NOV by Kristiina
How old is this rose? I wonder if it takes a special kind of pruning to get rugosas to this tree-like shape?
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most recent 19 OCT SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 15 AUG 20 by rose marsh
I think this is a beautiful little rose and would be great if you want a small climber
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 19 OCT by mballen
Can get pretty big!
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most recent 21 DEC 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 DEC 22 by mballen
I don't know what the edited comment originally said, but antique roses are often named to commemorate historical figures, or contemporary figures who are now historical, and for old rose lovers this adds to their charm.
The namesake of this rose, Alexander Ypsilantis , who lived 200 years ago, during the heyday of Romantic nationalism, is certainly historical.
Helpmefind's reference page quotes Botanica's Roses (1998) as saying "This variety was named for the Greek patriot and general Prince Alexandr Ypsilante who lived from 1792-1828."
Alexander certainly had an adventurous and rather tragic life since he died at age 35 after having spent seven years in an Austrian prison and also losing an arm in battle. He had a brother, Demetrios, for whom the town of Ypsilanti, Michigan, was named.. Both are considered heroes of the Greek independence movement.

As far as the rose, Graham Stuart Thomas, who refers it as "Ipsilanté, writes that "William Paul speaks very highly of this rose, and it certainly produces some most handsome blooms. It is a vigorous plant up to 4 or 5 feet, with good foliage and wide flat blooms, quartered and quilled, of palest lilac pink, 1821" (in The Old Shrub Roses,1957, 71 (p. 147).

Other sources describe the flowers as light purple. Most of the photos seem to show it as a mid pink in color.
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RoseAlive
most recent 4 SEP 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 13 MAY 22 by goncmg
Horrible names, all of them that it goes by. Rescued this one last year from the death cart at a big box store, almost free, rescued it despite the awful Rachel Ray-esque most common name. It’s a very good rose. It’s not my ideal esthetic as a Hybrid Tea as the blooms are cupped and David Austen-ish but that is going to make many people very, very happy. Color is bright, relatively unfading, deep saturated satin pink and the foliage is dark green, large, gorgeous. Plant grows more columnar than wide which with limited space I appreciate. The scent is divine, insane, rich, heady, old rose perfume & fresh grapefruit and it both wafts in the air outside and stays with the bloom for days when the bloom is cut. General impression is that of a distinction lacking typical Buck rose but with insane strong fragrance and an almost English Rose form. It’s going to ring a lot of bells, most consumers will find it appealing and it seems eager and easy to grow. I myself don’t love it. I’m glad I saved it. But sort of hate myself for saving that plant, too.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 13 MAY 22 by Marlorena
I'm glad you saved it, and I hope you get to like it more. I agree with all you said, too many names most of which do not do the plant justice. It's a fabulous rose where I am in England, and one of the best I've grown I think, considering all round qualities, including the deep, dark velvety red buds. It's exceptional.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 25 MAY 22 by Nola Z5a WI
What size does this rose get to?
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 4 SEP 22 by mballen
'Chekhov' is a beautiful name -- after one of the greatest writers who ever lived, and, if contemporary accounts are to be believed, an exemplary, almost saintly human being in a profession not noted for such. He came from a peasant background, rather than the nobility and began his literary career by writing humorous pieces to support his impoverished family. As a physician he treated the poor for free.

I don't know why the rose isn't known by that name. If I were to grow it I would always call it that.
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