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I think this is a beautiful little rose and would be great if you want a small climber
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#1 of 1 posted
19 OCT by
 mballen
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Can get pretty big!
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Warm Welcome,How lovely is this rose? pity not readily available in Australia.
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Is "Eric's Yellow 11" familiar to anybody?
The only rose I know of that hangs on to its petals like this is 'Irene Churruca' syn 'Golden Melody', but this rose is far too yellow for that.
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Could Eric's Yellow be Speks YellowI know the introduction date is later than the 40's but......Rose M
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#2 of 11 posted
18 JAN 19 by
HubertG
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Maybe "Phyllis Gold' from 1935 could be a possibility.
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The patent for ‘Spek’s Yellow’ says “distinctive straight thorns”.
The 1936 reference for ‘Phyllis Gold’ (presumably coming from Wheatcroft Bros.) says “black thorns”. Whether they mean black thorns on the new or old wood, I don’t know. I will tackle the old rose books this afternoon and add any interesting references I find. Many thanks for your thoughts HubertG. They are appreciated.
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#4 of 11 posted
18 JAN 19 by
HubertG
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You're welcome, Patricia,
I actually saw that reference to black thorns after I had posted my 'Phyllis Gold' comment. Then of course I went scrutinising the photos of "Eric's Yellow 11" for thorns but I actually couldn't find any. I don't know if this is just chance - that there aren't any thorns in the photos - or if it's in fact a relatively thornless rose. Being thornless might be an extra clue.
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It certainly might. I have to lift the plastic bag from the cuttings this morning to check for moisture, so if I see any thorns at all, I’ll report back.
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#6 of 11 posted
12 JUL 20 by
ThomasR
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Although the 1922 reference says it is 'entirely free from mildew and black spot', could Mabel Morse be an option for this rose ?
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#7 of 11 posted
12 JUL 20 by
HubertG
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That's not a bad suggestion, ThomasR. 'Mabel Morse' does seem to have a somewhat globular shape to the central part of the flower, the stems are brownish and the foliage glossy.
Is Eric's Yellow sweetly scented?
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#8 of 11 posted
13 JUL 20 by
ThomasR
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That is a bit anecdotal but in case this may help : I recently noticed hanging dead petals on Orchid Masterpiece, which is a descendant of possible identification Geheimrat Duisberg. I never noticed that before but I usually dead-head it.
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You two are just marvellous. Thank you so much for your input.
I have planted out my own-root plant of “Eric’s Yellow” and it will be a year or so before I see anything of interest to report. But my impression to date is that whatever its name, it is very likely to start with Gold. My computer is away for maintenance so I cannot investigate ‘Geheimrat Duisberg’ (syn ‘Golden Rapture’) 1933 more right now, but it is looking an excellent suggestion. Long term the thorns will tell us as Geheimrat Duisberg‘ had long prickles, and ‘Mabel Morse’ had “few prickles”.
Thank you to you both.
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Patricia, I do not think now that Eric's Yellow is Speks Yellow,I do not know if it has thorns, Sorry. I have Modern Roses 1930 by Rossi if you would like to borrow it. Rose
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Thanks Rose, that is nice of you, but I do have that book.
If you ever vet a chance to revisit Eric, take a photo or two of “Eric’s Yellow’s” thorns. There is a good chance that it could be ‘Golden Rapture’ 2933 and we do have excellent photos of that rose’s distinctive thorns. Otherwise we will have to wait until my rose grows on to compare thorns. Did you manage to get cuttings to strike?
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Could this be 'Crimson Glory Climbing'?
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#1 of 8 posted
1 JAN 19 by
Jay-Jay
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I am not sure about that Jay-Jay. I have never seen the bush but have some cuttings striking. Hopefully the discoverer will chime in on her recollection of the scent.
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#3 of 8 posted
2 JAN 19 by
Jay-Jay
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It's very distinctive. Once taken a deep sniff and one will never forget!
Had to look up the: "to chime in". Still not completely sure. It's not from chimes, but "breaking in this conversation"... is that what You meant?
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More or less. Contribute is a better word. Thanks for your interest Jay-Jay
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#5 of 8 posted
2 JAN 19 by
Jay-Jay
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As for looks of the opened flower, the left-overs, when the petals fell off and the dark shading, it could be Crimson Glory Climbing.
On HMF, on most photo's for the rose Crimson Gl. Cl. its red color is presented too bright and too light. It's more of a silk-matte dark red with much darker shadings(leaning towards black).
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Jay, Jay, This Rose has the most beautiful strong perfume, with striking blooms of a deep red with a velvety sheen. As you say it looks a lot darker than the pictures of Cl Crimson Glory. Rose M
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Is this Red Ethel in Stirling Square?
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#8 of 8 posted
3 JAN 19 by
Jay-Jay
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Most photo's of Cr. Gl. Cl. depicture that rose too light-red and too shiny. Due to the limitations most camera's have for de-picturing dark-red (with darker shadings) and velvety roses. (I suppose caused by ultraviolet reflections)
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