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most recent 5 MAR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 5 MAR by KarelBvn
The parentage link has a html error. I'm seeing this: < pan class="lnk small">City of Gloucester × [Polar Star (hybrid tea, Tantau, 1982)]
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 MAR by HMF Admin
Thank you.
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Initial post 17 NOV 22 by KarelBvn
Rosa villosa doesn't have an apple fragrance like R. rubiginosa. Its leaves do have a specific scent, but not an airborne apple scent. More of an inscense/turpentine/resin smell that rubs off. We've some of these in our region. I'm very sure of this.
I've also a source to confirm this in the description of Rosa tomentosa and Rosa sherardii wich are considered the new names of varieties of Rosa villosa:

"Zwaenepoel, A (2019). Wilde rozen in het Zwin en de kustduinen"
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De kliertjes ruiken ook niet naar appeltjes zoals bij de egelantier. De geur is veel minder opvallend; vaak worden de termen harsachtig of terpentijngeur gebruikt om deze te omschrijven.
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Eerder zelden wordt nog de overkoepelende benaming Rosa villosa gebruikt, waarbij dan sherardii als ondersoort of microspecies van deze wordt beschouwd.
- P133
De Berijpte Viltroos heeft de meeste kenmerken van de Gewone Viltroos gemeen, wat betreft beharing (viltig), bekliering (harsgeur) en stekels (zwak gebogen tot recht).

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- P127
The glands also do not smell like apples as with the Sweet Briar. The scent is much less distinctive; often the terms resinous or turpentine scent are used to describe it.
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Rather rarely, the umbrella term Rosa villosa is still used, with sherardii then considered a subspecies or microspecies of this one.
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The "Frosted Feltrose" (R. sherardii) shares most of the characteristics of the "Common Feltrose" (R. tomentosa/villosa), in terms of hairiness (felty), glands (resinous scent) and spines (weakly curved to straight).
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 18 NOV 22 by jedmar
Agree, other sources in German confirm the resinuous fragrance of the foliage. The local "Apple-Rose" name is due to the hips which look like mini apples, not the fragrance. Fragrance listing corrected, thank you!
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