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Available from - Donald Rogers www.areverenceforroses.com
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We have found Xander to be very disease resistant here at our Central Florida nursery.
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21 APR 18 by
subk
I can't believe there are no comments yet on this fabulous rose. Vigorous, generous, black spot resistant this has been a spectacular rose in my Middle Tn garden under heavy disease pressure. In 4-5 years it has grown to be 6' tall and almost 10' wide. It takes a lot of space, but deserves every square inch of garden it takes. It has an excellent spring flush, produces flowers through the entire summer and has a strong fall flush when the summers aren't too dry. I can always count on it to have blooms that can be cut for the house. In my zone 6b-ish garden where it was between 0 and 5 degrees this winter it only had freeze damage on some of its branch tips. I don't spray, rarely water, and other than a few shovels full of horse manure twice a year (if I get around to it) don't give it any special care. This rose really deserves a wider distribution than it has!
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#1 of 3 posted
10 JUL 19 by
drogers
In looking at our mother plant here in Central Florida I find that it is very clean. Having had very high rates of rain fall and high humidity for some weeks this plant appears to just shrug it off.
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#2 of 3 posted
19 MAY 21 by
madji
I agree, this is a fabulous rose, always has roses on it! Mine is equal in size to yours if not bigger. I do nothing for it, it is so massive I can't begin to get at it's base! Love it, no problem of any kind.
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#3 of 3 posted
2 AUG 22 by
jmile
The only problem with this rose is that it needs a Huge space to grow. I keep cutting it back and it keeps trying to take its neighbors' space. It needs a large plot of its own.
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For anyone who has this rose, can you tell me please if your rose is virtually thornless? not totally but just a few downward facing ones here and there, and small prickles on the back of the leaf stalks, because that's all mine seems to have, the uppermost canes are smooth, and I'm wondering if I have the correct rose, but otherwise the blooms and foliage seem to conform to what I see here. I'm in England, and my rose does not appear to be William R. Smith with which it's sometimes confused apparently.
My rose has a light sweet fragrance, very upright in growth, quite vigorous, possible short climber - I shall have to move it - with creamy white, tinted yellow, sometimes pale pink edging but not much so far. Not many petals, not very full. My plant is first season..
A member here below in the U.S. states ''horrible thorns'' which is why I'm making this query. Thank you,
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#1 of 11 posted
17 SEP 21 by
Lee H.
Marlorena, my Marie has what I would term a somewhat below average number of prickles, combined with an average size. One distinctive feature is that the prickles are a dark red. I’ll post a picture of those under the main rose category so you can see and compare to yours.
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Lee, thanks so much, and very prompt response.. I've seen your picture.. where you have 5 o 6 I have just 1 or 2, but they are the same colour and shape... the rest of the bush looks to be the same foliage wise... my plant is only 4 feet tall so maybe with time I will see more thorns, but I've checked all the references and I can find nothing to say it's 'low thorn'.. which puzzled me..
I'm thinking now it's the correct rose and that it will conform to type as it develops... thanks again for your help..
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#3 of 11 posted
17 SEP 21 by
Lee H.
You’re very welcome. I always have time to talk about old garden roses.
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The Tea book says: prickles numerous. They're visible on photo 104343.
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Thank you Margaret. I shall keep comparing but if it's not this rose I've no idea what else it could be. I'll post some photos when it's more mature..
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I guess Mrs Dudley Cross is the closest in colour of those the Tea book lists as usually thornless. Aka "Mrs lemon meringue pudding".
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Oh thank you Margaret, I've looked that one up and in some pictures I can see a similarity to my rose, those from Werribee Victoria and some gardens in Europe, but not from San Jose Heritage, they are too double.. and the reports of 60-100 petals is not my rose currently, unless it gets fuller with age.. however the growth habit seems to conform.. so I shall keep my eye on this one as it develops... Mrs DC is not sold here in England any more, unless it's masquerading as Marie van Houtte.. I note it's often described as an improved version of that rose..
I hope to get to the bottom of this eventually..
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"Improved version" is just advertiser-speak - search on rose names begining with Improved, and see how many of them have disappeared. Marie van Houtte is a wonderful rose if you have the space for it.
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..just going from the references on that, but whichever rose I have here, it will have to impress rather more on the bloom front, I find them rather small and shapeless so far... 'Mme Antoine Mari' is way better and there is no comparison, so time will tell..
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#10 of 11 posted
22 JUN 22 by
drogers
Mrs Dudley Cross is quite like Marie Van Houtte and is almost thornless you may want to investigate MDCross. Both are equally beautiful.
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#11 of 11 posted
22 JUN 22 by
Marlorena
..thank you for your time and input here. I have since found out it was clg. Mrs Herbert Stevens... which was not a rose I wanted, so I no longer have it.. thanks again though..
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