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16 AUG 04 by
Anonymous-94458
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I suspect that all pre-PBR varieties will eventually be considered "inferior" - for commercial reasons!!
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What does PBR stand for?
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#5 of 5 posted
1 JUN 11 by
Cradoc
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Plant Breeder's Rights - exclusive commercial rights to a registered variety
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Thank you very much.
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#2 of 5 posted
11 NOV 06 by
Unregistered Guest
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I completly agree! I have 3 Lordly Oberons in my gardens and they are giant with the most wonderful fragrant cupped roses. It is a very romantic rose. Long arching stems that look gorgeous in a tall glass vase. Heady fragrance.
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#3 of 5 posted
23 APR 07 by
Anonymous-797
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I have this rose growing in Adelaide, South Australia and have found it to be very vigorous, reasonably drought tolerant and very fragrant. Mine is very lanky so I 'hoop' the stems and this produces more blooms as otherwise they only bloom on the ends of the very long canes.
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5 NOV 04 by
Cradoc
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Its raiser might not consider this to be worth growing but I do. It's not possessed of either outstanding beauty or fragrance but it's pretty enough, fragrant enough and very, very tough and reliable. I counted almost 200 buds on a bush of little more than 2 1/2 feet tall. Disease resistance seems good in my cool, temperate climate.
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Isn't it funny how some breeders etc...consider a rose to not be worth commercially marketing yet many find the rose to be aboslutely fine?!? I have seen that happen many times before.
I always liked to purchase the Test Panel Roses from J&P each year to grow and evaluate and many times they would decide a rose was not worthy of marketing yet I found the rose to be quite nice. I have a coral pink HT with a rather old-fashioned bloom that has very little fragrance that they felt had "weak necks" to the point that they decided not to market it. However, the roses on my bush of that rose do not have any weaker necks than any other rose I grow and the blooms are outstandingly beautiful. They are very large with heavy substance and I have counted as many as 35 blooms in a given flush and the blooms last for two weeks or better on the bush or even cut for a vase. It is super disease resistant, has beautiful dark green dense foliage, few thorns, and is winter hardy in my zone 5b/6a garden with no added help from me. And, the flushes of flowers are not only large, but they repeat very quickly which make it seem to always be in bloom. So anyway, maybe others weren't feeding or caring for their plants correctly causing the very heavy blooms to nod a bit, but believe me I love this rose and am propagating more of it for my own personal garden because I love it and think J&P missed out marketing a really great rose.
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17 AUG 04 by
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This rose is an excellent (although very thorny!!) grower in my cooler climate, with most beautiful flowers. It's very tough, withstanding prolonged dry spells (I'm on tank water) and easily shrugging off disease. I'd recommend this variety in spite of its breeder considering it to be superseded. I suspect this has more to do with PBR and commerce than the inferiority of the rose. Worth seeking out.
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Are you aware of any source for this rose ? I am in California. Thanks.
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17 AUG 04 by
Cradoc
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Yet another "replaced" variety!
This is an strong grower, free-flowering and healthy with delightful flowers which are good for cutting. Strong 'myrrh' scent. I live in a cool climate with dry summers and I wouldn't be without this rose in my garden. Many of the older Austins are well worth seeking out - don't be put off by the breeder now considering them to be inferior (as I believe this to be commercially motivated).
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