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I am reprinting the Ferenztel Komlosy plates of 1868-1875. Tormenteux is one of the first
that I have done. Do you want me to upload a print of Tormenteux?
There are 7 other Komlosy plates that have been reprinted. Are you interested in them also?
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Yes, most definitely.
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Regarding the rose pictured and listed as Sombreuil, et al, would you be
interested in a jpeg scan of the REAL Sombreuil? The correct name, in the "old
literature" is "Madame de Sombreuil", a rather loose and open Tea rose. I have a very
large coloured plate of it in Nestel's "Rosengarten", Stuttgart, 1866.
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#1 of 4 posted
17 SEP 09 by
 jedmar
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Thank you, scans of old rose pictures are always very valuable. This one, however, was already posted by member Billy Teabag last year.
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Bob will be able to supply a better quality scan of this image than the one I posted, so what if i delete that one and Bob can replace it with the high resolution scan?
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#3 of 4 posted
19 SEP 09 by
jedmar
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I've deleted that photo of the plate from Nestel's Rosengarten.
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Gentlemen:
Of all of the images you show of Souvenir d'un Ami, the one that I can confirm as absolutely correct is the one from Nestel's "Rosengarten". I bought the book 10 years ago, and when I took it outside to compare with my plant, the structure, canes and flowers of my plant were almost identical with the picture from Nestel. It was as though the artist had painted MY plant! The colouring was "spot on"! My plant came from John
McGregor, former curator of roses at the Huntington, who was quite certain that it WAS the true "Souvenir", although at that time he was unable to verify it. Consider it verified!
Bob Edberg
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Hi Bob
How does this rose compare with yours?
The actual colour is slightly more salmon than this photo suggests.
Billy
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#3 of 6 posted
23 MAY 09 by
jedmar
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There are so many incorrect SdA's in commerce. It would be a great help if you could post a couple of photos of your plant!
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I have a 'Souvenir d'un Ami'-I don't know which rose it really is.
It very much resembles the one in the "Nestel's Rosengarten" plate
and also the pic posted here by Billy.
Mine has light pink upper petals and darker petal backs
When it is sorted out I will post my pics in the correct place (hopefully) LOL!
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Unfortunately, my original plant is still in California. I sent cuttings of it to Paul Zimmerman, at Ashdown Roses, before I left, and got a plant of Souvenir d un'Ami back from him when I moved to South Carolina. But, as we all know, soil, climate conditions, care, etc., greatly affect every rose variety differently. Here, in South Carolina, ALL roses are much darker than in southern California, probably because of colder weather and very acid soil. And, photo quality differs, as well as the reproduction OF those photos. The original plate of Souvenir in Nestel is a bit different from the reproduction we see in HelpMeFind.
Bob Edberg
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24 MAY 09 by
jedmar
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Would Cass' photos of SdA from Ashdown then be identical to your plant?
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Currently, you show a photo of "Sultane of Zanzibar", an 1876 HP that I have been looking
for well over 40 years. The photo is accredited as "AmiRoses 2004". Obviously, the
rose is NOT extinct, as I had begun to believe.
Who, what and where is "AmiRoses", and how do I contact them?
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