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Boronkay (Rose Garden Budatétény)
most recent 30 MAY SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 FEB 22 by Boronkay (Rose Garden Budatétény)
Origin is unknown. Why?
According to Sean Jennett, Sam McGredy (in References) "Grandfather bred it from the' Austrian Copper', and this is an interesting series to follow through."
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 2 FEB 22 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Boronkay. It is great to have your help - parentage now added.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 29 MAY by Michael Garhart
One of the most important roses genetically in modern rose history and we don't have a clue what its bred from. I imagine its from a R. foetida bicolor hybrid rather than R. foetida becolor itself, but there is no way to prove this without the plant itself and something to test it genetically. So, it is what it is, and stays as its stated in written history. Sucks, but that's how it is I guess.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 30 MAY by HubertG
'Fiesta' from 1940 is supposed to be a sport of 'The Queen Alexandra' and might still be available since there are relatively recent photos here. Whether it is the correct variety or not is another matter.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 30 MAY by Michael Garhart
That would be enough, yeah. Good thinkin'.
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most recent 6 DEC 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 DEC 22 by Boronkay (Rose Garden Budatétény)
Does anyone know who Dr. Hurta was?
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 6 DEC 22 by jedmar
Difficult to say, there seems to have been several Dr. Hurtas in the Austtri-Hungarian Empire: Checking Google Books
- Dr. Ignaz Hurta (1854) Doctor for Mines in Czernowitz;
- Dr. Johann Hurta (1853), personal doctor of the Archbishop (Princeps Primas) of Hungary (Béla Bartakovics?)
Did Geschwind know the former, or did he honour the latter, or someone else?
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most recent 20 APR 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 APR 22 by Boronkay (Rose Garden Budatétény)
According to Roy Shepherd, 'Orangefield Rose' is hybrid between Rosa arvensis and an Alba cultivar.
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most recent 24 FEB 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 23 FEB 22 by Boronkay (Rose Garden Budatétény)
According Istvan Wagner, the cultivar name is 'Fritz Schröder'. Which one is correct?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 23 FEB 22 by jedmar
Both names exist in German, but adding a few more references indicates that 'Fritz Schrödter' is correct. He was a German opera singer.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 24 FEB 22 by Boronkay (Rose Garden Budatétény)
Thank you!
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