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Bonjour Monsieur Kai-Erik,
Moi aussi, je suis passionné par les roses, surtout par les rosiers anciens. Il y a quelque temps, vous vous étiez intéressé par le rosier Comtesse Ouwaroff. Avez-vous réussi à contacter monsieur Joseph Beaujean ? Est-ce que cette rose est à votre disposition ? Si oui, auriez-vous l'amabilité de partager des bouturages avec moi pour mon jardin privé ?
Bien à vous,
Elizabeth
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i'm confused about the indication of vincent berger - born in 1883 on further czechoslovakian ground - to have bred dr. lande with only 18 years...?
b.dickerson at least mentions j.-b. chauvry from bordeaux having been involved in breeding of the plant, in collaboration with a certain berger. are there documents showing that austrian breeder v. berger is the same person?
dedication to the mayor of bordeaux at the time makes sense for french not austrian breeding.
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#1 of 3 posted
16 OCT 08 by
 jedmar
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Dickerson is possibly quoting Jäger, who lists Chauvry in brackets, which (usually) means for him that Chauvry commercialized the rose. The Berger nursery in Czechoslovakia passed 1926 from Adolph to Vincenz Berger, so the breeder could have been the father. The only other rose bred by a Berger in France is from 1852, so that does not fit either. We need more contemporary accounts on this.
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Ketten (catalog 1902, p. 135) credits Berger, as does/do Soupert & Notting (1905, p. 68). Even better, Rosen-Zeitung of 1901, (p. 15), concerning which I will try to attach an image.
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#3 of 3 posted
9 JAN by
jedmar
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The breeder question was actually resolved a long time ago with the quote from Journal des Roses.. We have added the two additional references, thank you!
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seems to be mislabeled. much resemblance to 'lady roberts'.
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obviously miss alice de rothschild in rosarium sangerhausen rose collection(germany) is wrong and ressembles to safrano.
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