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'Madame Caroline Testout, Cl.' rose Reviews & Comments
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"This is a very free-flowering rose. The thorny stems are upright and stiff; it is better to train this rose on a pillar, or as in old rose gardens, a pyramid, than to attempt to make it cover a wall. Hardy to -20°F (-29°C), Zone 5."
Citation:
Best rose guide: a comprehensive selection / Roger Phillips and Martyn Rix -- 1st ed. pg.
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Armed with prickles.
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Thanks Margaret. Is there any chance you can give us the reference from the 1911 The Rose Annual page 32? This is one Annual that unfortunately never came my way.
H. R. Darlington. Individual descriptions from "Some Good Climbing Roses”.
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Alas, no. I have 1910 and 1912, still looking for some missing ones..
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Thanks anyway Margaret.
Can anyone else access that reference please? I think it may contain some good information.
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Available from - Brushwood Nursery
http://gardenvines.com/shop/
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This is the second year for 'Madame Caroline Testout' in our garden. The Madame was received as a rooted cutting and had grown to about 3 feet by years end. This year her growth is not as rapid as it was last year (now she is about 3.5 feet ), but she is rarely without bloom (there has always been at least one bloom) and she is also very fragrant! The blooms are quite large and upon opening are a bright pink edged with carmine-pink. As the blooms age the carmine seems to be absorbed into the pink color of the blossom. Other than her remontancy, and fragrance, she has exhibited very little black spot (about 5 percent of the plant seems to be affected) and no die-back in our garden.
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I have a rose which the previous gardener has identified as Caroline Testout. I am attaching a photo which I hope will help you tell me if the rose I have is the Madame.
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Hi. Its really difficult to identify a rose from a photo, I would like to see the various blooms in their life cycle-- almost open to blown; I would also like to see the canes and prickles-- having said that, the picture you posted looks very similar to the blooms and leaves on my Madame. In addition, the petals on my Madame are inclined to cup and turn inward-- also the flowers have darker centers (tinted carmine) and as far as my nose is concerned, there Very Fragrant. Unlike the Madame, my rose does not ball when wet, they hang down, the canes have a problem supporting the weight of the wet blossoms. You may also want to checkout the various photos of the Madame in HMF, Click the Rose Tab, bring up the Madame and then click on the Photo Tab.I hope I've given you enough information about my Madame so that you can make a better better comparison. I know that she (the Madame) will always have a home in my garden.In closing--- I can only say that your photo looks very similar to my Madame and numerous photos that I've seen of 'Madame Caroline Testout'.Have a Happy New Year,Bill
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Thank you for your response. I do agree that photos are a hard way to identify roses. One only has to look at the variations of form and color in the HMF files. Unfortunately my "MCT" has been long neglected and now comprises a single cane of which the two flowers you saw were the sole blooms. It was very hot in Seattle when they were open and they lasted two days. When I touched them all the petals fell off at one time. My plan is to take cuttings and move this rose to a happier spot. Currently she is being overrun by Belle de Crecy and Golden Wings! I inherited a garden with perhaps 60 old ramblers and shrub roses. It has been fun identifying them and trying to restore the garden. Thanks for your help and all the best in 2007. Rick smoot.
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Rick, If your 'Madame Caroline Testout' is in decline as you indicated, you may want to get your hands on a new band or a one gallon potted Madame or even a #1 bare-root rose. The band will be up and growing long before your cutting takes hold-- that is if your successful and the cutting takes hold. Its just a thought. I truly hope your successful with your cuttings. Bill
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Bill, I have often wondered about the wisdom of trying to resucitate a flagging rose, especially ones as relitively old as the ones in my garden. (10 to 15 years). We are truly living in the golden age of accessibility to antique or heritage roses. I will not mention how much money I have spent on new "old" roses that I couldn't live without. Thank you for your advice. Rick
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Stratorick: Maybe by now you have identified your photo, HMF # 60395, submitted on 12/31/'06 (a year ago tomorrow). It does look something like MCT, but also like the photo of Columbia, Cl. on the Everyrose website. Mike, Michigan.
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