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'Polynesian Sunset' rose Reviews & Comments
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Was introduced in the UK by Alex. Dickson & Sons.
NRS Annual 1965 p208
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26 APR 16 by
 goncmg
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4 years later and no, not in love. But I still grow it. This one is tough as nails, has the constitution of a weed. Sets seeds like a "rabbit," and budded? Is a total beast. The blooms never impress me, it really doesn't "stand out" but I can see why it attracted the attention of hybridizers in its day. I would expect if some of its wood was fed into a wood chipper and shot out during a rainy spell it could become at least locally invasive.....it is that weedy in my opinion and for sure that much of a survivor.
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6 OCT 12 by
goncmg
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The 1960's saw a glut of coral-orange-orange/red roses and at that time there also seemed to be a trend to name roses after the tropics whether they were coral or orange or not: South Seas, Trade Wind, Hawaii, Balinese, Tropicana, and this one. I've grown it twice, once in the early 80's and now have it again on its own roots....this is one that I am so trying to just fall in love with but it never quite gets me "there".....if anyone has perused the photos here and thought they do not look like the same rose, well, that is Polynesian Sunset! It CAN produce big classic Hybrid Tea blossoms....but generally, in my experiences, it tends to cluster and the blooms lose size and look somewhat like a deeper colored version of the 80's Floribunda Cherish. In the 70's this one was actually put in the Grandiflora class for a few years and truly this is where it would still best fit because the plant does get quite big. For me it is a problem with mildew and it also is rather subject to blackspot but tends to bounce back, it is vigorous.....it is a very 1960's rose and I believe it was Jackson and Perkins Rose of the Year 1965 or 1966......
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Thanks for that information, Chris! I have learned a lot by reading your posts. You are a special asset to HMF!
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#2 of 7 posted
21 DEC 12 by
goncmg
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Dianne: get on Amazon and shop the old ARS annuals..........I own pretty much every single annual 1950-1990 and it is amazing and hysterical to pore over them.....to read articles written 50 years ago that discuss what the "future" of the rose will be and to know, now, how they were not far off in their baseline predictions, just some developments took longer and some happened quite fast...........and the "Age of the Hybrid Tea" as we love it and knew it is soooooooooooooo far over. The sociology of the mass marketed rose is probably something I should have written a PhD thesis on..........:-)
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That sounds good to me (the thesis)! I've wondered for a long time why all the retail nurseries sell the same 50 (mostly scentless) roses. I will definitely check out getting the ARS annuals, if I have any money left after all my rose purchases (is it a sickness)?
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21 DEC 12 by
goncmg
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Yes. It is a sickness and we have it! :-)......many of the annuals are like$2..........have fun...........it is just a whole different world than it was..............in the 50's and 60's if you get some annuals you will see amazing ROSE CLUBS posting for the Roses in Review...........very specialized like Ladies Central Colorado Rose Group.....Tulsa Men's Rose Society.............THAT went by the wayside by the 70's.........and by the 70's the fact (and this is still with ARS) that many exhibit and many DON'T led way to TWO ratings as you know.............some roses were LOWER rated "then" and some were hysterically HIGH rated then......Helen Traubel was once 8.7............so much has to do with fad and marketing................I assume you have grown First Prize. Other than having a rather reliably freakishly big bloom, I'm sorry. It is a lanky, thorny, awkward plant, it likes to cluster, it gets mildew and blackspot..........9.0 for 30 years and still I think 8.1 or something.........it can be so relative...........in the late 60's the annuals were considering Mme. Chiang Kai-Shek and some AARS winners from the 40's "obsolete"......that would be like rendering an AARS 1992 literally obsolete..............in 1985 or 86 Ingrid Bergman, which went on to win World's Favorite Rose recently, made NO SPLASH at all in Roseds in Review. Nothing. Like 7.5/7.0 "just another decent red"..................get on Amazon, buy em all, you will have a blast.
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Okay, that price sounds good enough, and I'm looking forward to having those for reference and information. I too have been puzzled by the rose ratings. One should see an occasional hybrid tea that receives ratings close to ten, but I've seldom seen one much higher than 8.2, though roses in other classes can be rated much higher. I agree with you about First Prize, as it definitely is not that special, though here we don't have a great deal of BS or mildew. Ingrid Bergman has long been my favorite red (though I can be fickle when I see Asso di Curio, Excellence, Red Masterpiece, Kardinal, Olympiad, VH, and so on). I don't suppose someone like me from a less disease-prone area can do a reasonable job of rating roses, however. I'd have to say they are ALL fairly disease-resistant—ha!
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21 DEC 12 by
goncmg
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Dianne, I so envy those of you who live in dry climates! It is so relative for me in swampy, soupy summered Ohio----without endless spray, each and every rose will get blackspot. I have to "judge" health by how quickly they succomb, how badly they succomb, to what type of strain(s) do they succomb and how quickly they can recover. ....anything with strong Peace genes tends to be a blackspot nightmare for me (Royal Highness is the worst but that first bloom in spring is breathtaking).....
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Chris, that's sad. I don't know if I'd still grow roses with all that to deal with. My Royal Highness is beautiful all year, with never any problem. I wouldn't know BS if it was growing on my hands. :-) (Actually I think I've seen it occasionally, but nothing ever serious. And not on my hands, of course.)
You need to MOVE!!
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25 FEB 04 by
Anonymous-797
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Where can I purchase the rose " Polynesian Sunset"
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11 JUL 04 by
Unregistered Guest
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You can purchase Polynesian Sunset from Vintage Gardens in Sebastopol, Ca. They offer good
service and are very helpful with any rose related questions. I have purchased many times from them. www.vintagegardens.com or 707-829-2035
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