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Initial post 5 JAN 07 by missy396
I have been a fan of this rose since August of 1999.  A local florist here in Los Angeles would get them quite frequently.  I am a bit confused about a couple of things:  How is Nola Simpson and Meilland related to this rose? Is there another rose with the name SIMchoca?  When and where will this be available to purchase for California?Thanks,Missy
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 23 AUG by Miliaah
I know it's been a long time since these questions were asked, but since they seem to never have been answered - and in case others were wondering, I've gathered some intel:

- This Terracotta® rose, MEIcobuis, was discovered by Meilland in France during 1994. As the odd one out growing among roses of the Léonidas/MEIcofum variety, the new variety was believed to be a mutation thereof, showing new distinct characteristics. This is described in the US PP invention summary.

- Nola Simpson is, as far as I could gather, not related to this rose. However, as you mentioned, there is another rose commonly known as Terracotta: the Chocolate Prince/SIMchoca. The confusion occurs as it is often accredited to Meilland, albeit being invented by Nola Simpson (in New Zealand in 2001). This is due to Nola Simpson having her rose accepted for world release by/through the Meilland company (as mentioned by Peter Elliott in the 2002 New Zealand Rose Annual on p. 60). This relation is what stuck, though the context has somewhat faded away.
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Initial post 23 AUG by fenriz
A rather moderate scent (like fresh linen) especially for a rugosa. Hips are oddly shaped and big. Habit and leaves are a bit unrugose, maybe the petals are therefore a bit more durable.
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Initial post 23 AUG by GoldBeardThePirate
This rose didn't skip a beat after being shipped, flourished in the heat wave in both growth and unwitting/crisping petals, and it is a flower factory. In the summer heat, my only experience with it so far 2025, it has a cool greyed lavender core with cool almost white grey outer petals. On the cooler week we got here the whole flower took on the cool lavender tone being deeper in the center as expected. The flowers start in high centered excellent form and the petals reflex as they open finishing in a flat bloom form exposing bright red filaments and anthers. There is really no scent or it's very mild thus far. The rain doesn't bother the roses much but I did notice a little browning here and there. This could be due to the heat that followed the rain. I have 3 so far and it's really a spectacle. The flowers are about 3inches across so far but all of my bushes are still small so we will see what their final size is but these are gorgeous as is so I am happy either way.
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Initial post 23 AUG by jeffbee
This one has very strong and wonderful sweet fruity fragrance with some tropical flavor
the flowers have lots of petals and form a very full David Austin style shape, very beautiful.
but the growth and disease resistance is just soso
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