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25 MAY by
Hamanasu
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I love ‘New Zealand’ for its beautifully formed flowers, attractive foliage and distinctive sweet scent but it seems to have become very susceptible to blackspot in Britain. I no longer grow it. I tried ‘Sugar moon’, which is a close descendant, but the scent is nowhere near as refined as in NZ and I hated the thick, graceless stems supporting flowers lacking the delicacy of its progenitor. Then I discovered that ‘Titanic’ is a direct descendant of NZ and CK Jones describes the tea scent as stunning. So I had to try it. The scent on the first bloom is not at at all tea-like, but very strong and sweet, and similar in quality to the linden/lonicera periclymenum scent of NZ. I’m thrilled, and hope the plant will show better disease resistance than NZ.
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#1 of 3 posted
26 MAY by
 Robert Neil Rippetoe
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I hope you'll follow up with your evaluation. I find it interesting. Thank you, Robert
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#2 of 3 posted
30 MAY by
Hamanasu
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Thank you. Here’s an update. After a few days I cut the first bloom, which was becoming crowded all round by other developing buds in the same cluster, and put it in a vase inside the house. The scent indoors is very strong and rather like the classical fragrance of well scented crimson hybrid teas (which the literature often describes as damask, though to my mind that’s a misnomer, as the scent of true damask roses is much sweeter). The foliage on Titanic is much coarser than in New Zealand — hopefully more disease resistant, though.
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#3 of 3 posted
30 MAY by
Robert Neil Rippetoe
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Yes, disease resistance is what I'm curious about.
I'm currently growing, 'Easy Spirit', which has relatively little fragrance. I'm trying to decide whether to let it go.
Thanks for the update.
Robert
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21 MAY 11 by
anonymous-685482
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Can anyone tell me where I can find this rose (Gay Debutante)? I'm the grandson of the discoverer and would really like to have it.
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#1 of 1 posted
30 MAY by
fireman32653
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Sadly I can't help you find the actual rose, but I can share with you a rose tag I found with my metal detector at a site that used to be a nursery.
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Initial post
29 MAY by
Unregistered Guest
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Available from - Certified
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28 MAY by
Cal Schroeck
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Rose Listing Omission
Lauren Claire
Commercially available (newly registered)
Registration name: Lauren Claire
Bred by Calvin W Schroeck (United States, first observed in 2020).
Introduced in United States by Freedom Gardens in 2025 as 'Lauren Claire'
Polyantha.
White/white blend. Mild fragrance. Average diameter 3 cm. Single (40-50 petals), in small clusters bloom form. Blooms continuously throughout the season. Very disease resistant.
Bushy. Glossy, medium green foliage.
Height: up to 3' (up to 90cm).
Patent: Not filed.
Voluntary seedling growing in the area near 'The Fairy"
Source: 'Lauren Claire' - from Freedom Gardens
Named after breeder's grandaughter.
(Photos will be provided once it is listed in HMF)
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#1 of 1 posted
29 MAY by
jedmar
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