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Initial post 15 AUG 22 by MADActuary
Does anybody out there grow Fred Loads? In the description tab it says it can be a climber in warmer climates and a tall floribunda (or shrub) in colder zones. I am in zone 5b. I planted Fred in May, 2021 in a sunny spot next to my brick wall of my garage (SW exposure). In 2021 I wasn't sure if the rose I had planted was in fact Fred Loads as my plant grew like the dickens but did not produce a single bloom. It had climbing canes - so late last year I bent these canes to the horizontal (or nearly so) and tried to train it like a climber. Fred overwintered well (the sun beating on the brick garage wall makes it warmer than zone 5b) and behaved like a climber come spring and it did in fact bloom on the laterals (and it was in fact Fred Loads after all). But they were big blooms and not a lot of them. Since then I have just let Fred grow again and it's growing great but there are no buds/blooms in sight.

My Fred Loads can't seem to find it's place in the world. It's a light blooming climber and a non-blooming shrub or floribunda. If I can't figure out how to get more blooms Fred is going to meet up with a shovel come the summer of 2023!
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 16 AUG 22 by Johno
Fred Loads was purchased a little over twelve months ago in a closing down sale and while growing in a pot it is shortly to be moved into the ground. Fred’s flowers are to be admired and the bees certainly enjoy the open blooms.

I have no knowledge of your soil type or any comprehension of growing roses in Zone 5b but you may care to consider the following factors.

Your Fred Loads is but a baby and needs to be given more time to establish and settle down in the soil. Would not consider shovel pruning it under five years. The rarity of Fred here is one reason for its retention. There is no guarantee that a rose which has been on the market for over fifty rears will continue to be available.

The rapid growth and lack of flowers suggests the plant is putting all its energy into producing foliage. You could try a feed of potash as it clearly has plenty of nitrogen.

One of the HMF references, Botanica P253 states ‘If it is pruned hard to reduce its ungainly height in winter it then produces enormous heads of flowers..’ The reference promises large rose trusses which would contend with Sally Holmes.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 8 AUG 24 by SheriHMF
I laughed out loud at your description of Fred not finding its place in the world. How is it doing?
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 5 days ago by MADActuary
My Fred Loads is still growing like a climber, but alas it really doesn't like to bloom as it prefers to just grow. Next Spring I am going to transplant Fred to a sunnier location. In current location it is shaded until about noon. The new location would have more morning sun. Fingers Crossed/Touch Wood.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 9 AUG 24 by Michael Garhart
It's a simple pillar rose. Grows straight up. Doesn't really bend. Blooms large clusters. Very easy rose to grow. Does BS like others from its era, but otherwise a fine, simple, easy rose.
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Initial post 13 APR 21 by Nastarana
I just took delivery of a plant of 'Crazy Fashion' from Palatine. I swooned over the pictures and decided to take a chance on being able to keep it alive. What can anyone here tell me about this most beautiful rose?
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 13 SEP 23 by Jay-Jay
I saw this rose today in the Rosarium of Winschoten.
It badly balls in rain, but the scent is "to die for".
Foliage: just a little of Black-spot... unlike lots of roses this summer.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 5 days ago by AGBTG
After two very rainy summers the blooms have yet to ball. They can brown along the edges of the petals but I think it's because they last so long. They have one of the best full petal forms and a pleasant hard (for me) to categorize fragrance.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 23 OCT 23 by ParisRoseLady
Nastarana, Do you have any updates on how this rose did for you? I'm curious to know as I'm intrigued by the coloration. Also, where are you located geographically?
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 23 OCT 23 by Nastarana
It did very well in its first year following spring planting. However, it froze to the ground during our relatively mild last winter and took a long time to recover. I mostly don't winter protect. I have to conclude it is no more than crown hardy in zone 5. I do believe it would do very well indeed in the warmer zones. The flowers are gorgeous and the foliage mostly disease free until late in the season when BS rampages throughout our area.
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