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Initial post today by Johno
Can someone please explain HMF classification for Tinkerbell as 'miniature, patio'. I thought it had been reclassified but on checking on Modern Roses it is still listed as a Floribunda.

"Tinkerbell (Suntink), Floribunda (Fl), lp (Light Pink), 1999, Schuurman, Frank B., Full (26-40) petals, flowers soft, light pink, borne Large Clusters, Regular Repeat, Moderate, Glossy Foliage Surface, Medium Green Foliage Color, Upright Growth, Medium Height, Patent# PP10940, [White Dream X Evelien], Franko Roses New Zealand, Ltd., 1993"
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Initial post today by mmanners
Rose Listing Omission

Eleanor Ramage

Medium-pink Large-Flowered Climber.
Registration name: Eleanor Ramage
Exhibition name: Eleanor Ramage

Discovered by Alicia J. Whidden (United States, 2022)

Large-Flowered Climber

Medium pink. Mild fragrance. Double (35-40 petals) bloom form, in small clusters.
Semi-glossy foliage.

Height 8' to 10' (245-3905 cm).

Not patented.

Sport of 'Dr. Prevatt' (large-flowered Climber, R. W. Prevatt. before 1985).

'Eleanor Ramage' was discovered as a color sport on a plant of 'Dr. Prevatt' by Alicia J. Whidden. 2022.

registration with ARS submitted and currently pending.
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Initial post yesterday by Patricia Routley
Can anyone shed more light on the 1937 and 1938 ‘Miss America’ references to ‘Opal’.
I note the parentage is slightly different to that of ‘Miss America’.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted today by HubertG
Not a lot, but it's interesting to note that in the 1936, 1937 and 1938 publications of 'All about the new roses' by J.H. Nicolas published by the Jackson and Perkins Company neither 'Opal' or 'Miss America' are mentioned and that Nicolas died in 1937.

Editing to add that 'Miss America' appears in the 1939 publication of the above.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted today by jedmar
1939 references added, thank you!
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