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Initial post today by goncmg
You have your hands on Candy Apple! And used it as a parent!!! Looking for Candy Apple is how I met so many people in the rose world about 12 years ago!
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Initial post today by goncmg
When this variety “gets it right” it gets it sooooooo right. Alas, in my experiences in Northern California, Ohio and Florida it rarely does get it anywhere near “right” and more often than not is a thorny, partially defoliated tower of yuck. But I can’t not grow it because wow. It’s the “dream” rose I envision those times the planets align……
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Reply #1 of 4 posted today by Nastarana
Your photo shows good color and healthy foliage. Do you think CP is in any way an improvement on 'Tropicana'? Are there any 'Tropicana' descendants you can recommend, even only with reservations?
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Reply #2 of 4 posted today by goncmg
Hi there! That was a fast comment! And a good question. Here’s the strange background: I can’t grow Tropicana. That variety hates me. It hated me when I was 5 it most recently hated me at 56. It hates me no matter what format I try to grow it in: budded, own root, first rate plant, body bag rescue, in a pot or in the ground, Northern California, Central Ohio, Northeastern coastal Florida. So for me, as measured against its Mother who hates me, it is a little bit of an improvement. And in general the blooms are more star shaped exhibition. The foliage and stems and buds looks a lot like Tropicana. It’s super tall and thin like Hawaii. I think the color is a bit more saturated than either parent, it’s a bit more orange than Tropicana, the color captures in my photos are accurate! But in the big picture? No. I don’t think it’s an improvement over Tropicana. I don’t think it’s even much of an improvement over Hawaii. And that seemed to be the general assessment 55 years ago at introduction. I’m pretty certain it ranks amongst the “you’ve got to be kidding me” AARS award recipients. And I agree with that even though I personally love it. As for other children of Tropicana I need to think on that. It’s weird but nothing immediately jumps to my mind!
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Reply #3 of 4 posted today by Lee H.
Christopher, do you spray? I grow a lot of the “mid century greats” that you do (including Tropicana), but I know they probably would never come close to flourishing if I didn’t keep up a rigorous program.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted today by goncmg
Oh yes. I spray. Pretty frequently in spring then I’m tired by August when generally it won’t stop raining and there is no point. I also use very strong liquid seaweed solution to water them and it seems to help keep disease at bay. I have less blackspot here in Florida than I did in Ohio! I’m right on the coast and there’s always a breeze and that’s got to be why? Breeze and seaweed? I don’t spray the blooms or buds and I don’t use insecticides but I do mix up the Daconil nice and strong. You can see the residue on the leaves in the pic.
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RoseAM038
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Initial post 2 days ago by Alain Meilland
Dear HMF,

AM038 (Hradec Králové Honourable Mention) is actually the variety Meipapey available only in North America under the trademark BALL GOWN™

Best regards
Matthias
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 2 days ago by jedmar
Listings merged, thank you!
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Reply #2 of 2 posted today by Youltaid44
Thanks for sharing such helpful instructions, really appreciate your help.
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Initial post yesterday by Elestrial's Garden
For anyone who has been wondering if this rose is Timeless Purple, it is not. A friend has been reaching out to many Monrovia reps and trying to contact the breeder and finally received confirmation that this rose is not the same. They received an email that says "When we originally sent plants to the USA for trial we had a number of selections. At Tesselaar we decided that NOA38121 [Timeless Purple] wasn't as disease resistant as we would like and decided NOA11356 was a better performing plant overall. Monrovia were happy with NOA11356 so we let them release that one under the Eau de Parfum branding. They are 2 different varieties, but we feel NOA11356 is the better performer"
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